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Cork developments

snotboogie

I noticed that the Limerick equivalent is a very popular thread over on their forum so I thought I might get one going here. To kick things off I'll list the bigger current projects I can think of:

Under Construction

Navigation Square: Four building office development on the former Navigation House site on Albert Quay. 310,000 sq ft of office space for up to 3000 employees. First phase to be completed Feb 19'

89-90 South Mall: 50,000 sq ft office, 5 storey office building.To be completed in December 18'

Dalata Hotel South Mall: Six storey hotel, 165 beds. To be completed in December 18'

Various Student Accommodation: Western Road and Beamish site are under construction, Crows Nest has planning and should start soon, Square Deal is facing appeals, Coca-Cola site on the Carrigrohane Road has had planning for over a year but nothing has happened? O’Riordans Joinery, Gillen House on Farranlea Road, Model Farm Road/Melbourne Road and Copely Street are all at various stages of planning and/or limbo.

Planning/Appealed

Horgan's Quay: Office Space for 5,000 employees, 200 apartments, 136 bed hotel and 3000 sq metres of restaurants and retail. Got planning permission in March but it was appealed by Port of Cork. Uncertain when the final decision will be. Construction on the Hotel will hopefully begin in Q4 this year with the office and apartments commencing in 2019.

Sullivan's Quay: 6 storey Office & 193 bed 4 star Hotel. Planning granted and immediately appealed. Given that demolition is nearly complete I'd expect this to go into construction as soon as planning is granted. Potential hold up over the height of the hotel, at 12 storeys and 47 metres, it is set to make the top 20 tallest buildings in the state if completed. An Taisce not happy.

Former Victoria Hotel: Knocking much of the Victoria and rebuilding to the back and refurbishing the original historic front/facade and to integrate the two sections into a new high order retail unit, of 25,000 sq ft, over four floors. Rumoured to be taken over by Zara. Planning granted in Feb, nothing happened on site since.

Metropole Redevelopment: €50m redevelopment of the Metropole Hotel to include a new five-storey boutique hotel on Patrick's Quay. Planning granted with amendments in March. No date for work to start.

Wilton Shopping Centre: €100 million revamp proposed. Mistake made in planning permission. In the process of resubmitting.

In Limbo

Event Centre: 6000 all seater multi purpose event centre with a tourist brewery experience. Arguably the most controversial construction project in the history of the city. After a bleak 6 months at the back end of 2017 there have been two instances of positive murmurs from the Government and BAM in January 2018 and April 2018. Construction allegedly to start in Q4 2018 but there are still conflicting and contradictory statements from all parties involved. Most would be shocked to see this start in 2018.

Anderson Quay/Camden Quay/Trinity Quarter: All have had planning for years with no work on site. Camden Quay allegedly had some work going on last week but I'd be shocked if it was related to the actual construction. I can't see any of these sites being developed as per their current proposals.

Concept/Pre Planning

Docklands Tower: 40 storey mixed use tower with the redevelopment of the existing customs house warehouses into cultural, tourist and retail space. By a mile the most ambitious development in Ireland. Announced over one year ago and no sign of a planning permission application yet, allegedly waiting for the Docklands development plan this summer to rezone heights for the site. If we don't see a planning application by the end of the year I'd be worried.

Ford Distribution Depot: Put on sale last week. Former site of the extremely ambitious Atlantic Quarter. Major development opportunity

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kisugem

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/cairn-homes-get-approval-for-major-cork-city-housing-development-958140.html

Dbu

kisugem wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/cairn-homes-get-approval-for-major-cork-city-housing-development-958140.html

Crazy stuff. Entrance beside the Darraglynn nursing home. Another 1000 cars heading for the centre of Douglas village and entering from the old carrigaline road:(

cantalach

kisugem wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/cairn-homes-get-approval-for-major-cork-city-housing-development-958140.html

Castletreasure sounds like it might be a daggy theme park in Bulgaria.

fonecrusher1

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Architect-calls-for-Corks-waterways-to-become-green-canopies-00a1251b-aecb-4c5e-a479-830722d1d532-ds?fbclid=IwAR0xRGjr0Xl2SoPGxjozS-mMnEmyW6XMAyygZeOBYrijhM7oixt3l-r5xbc

I wouldn't be opposed to it but it seems like it should be way down the pecking order of importance / relevance to improving the city center. Also i'm sure the permanently outraged will whinge about the fallen leaves causing issues etc etc.

namloc1980

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Architect-calls-for-Corks-waterways-to-become-green-canopies-00a1251b-aecb-4c5e-a479-830722d1d532-ds?fbclid=IwAR0xRGjr0Xl2SoPGxjozS-mMnEmyW6XMAyygZeOBYrijhM7oixt3l-r5xbc

I wouldn't be opposed to it but it seems like it should be way down the pecking order of importance / relevance to improving the city center. Also i'm sure the permanently outraged will whinge about the fallen leaves causing issues etc etc.

Traders: trees are taking up vital car parking spaces....etc

bingo9999

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Architect-calls-for-Corks-waterways-to-become-green-canopies-00a1251b-aecb-4c5e-a479-830722d1d532-ds?fbclid=IwAR0xRGjr0Xl2SoPGxjozS-mMnEmyW6XMAyygZeOBYrijhM7oixt3l-r5xbc

I wouldn't be opposed to it but it seems like it should be way down the pecking order of importance / relevance to improving the city center. Also i'm sure the permanently outraged will whinge about the fallen leaves causing issues etc etc.

I see what youre saying, but think in the context of the upcoming quay wall and morrisons island works its a perfect opportunity to stack the river with trees where possible. Union quay is nothing special but is made a lot more pleasant by the presence of trees along it, and I think the LLFRS (https://www.lowerleefrs.ie/gallery/) whatever your views on it looks a bit bare concretey and should have a lot more tree lines dropped into it. It also doesnt need to affect parking, trees can sit on the edge of the footpath/ parking divide and also serve as low key bollards/ protection for pedestrians

JupiterKid

Any recent photos of the progress on the major new construction schemes in the city (Penrose Dock, Horgan’s Quay, student apartments, hotels etc) ?

chalkitdown1

Anyone know what's going on with the Prism? Weren't they supposed to be on site before the end of the year?

SleetAndSnow

chalkitdown1 wrote: »

Anyone know what's going on with the Prism? Weren't they supposed to be on site before the end of the year?

Not sure, think they are closing down the tender and getting close to demolition. All but 1 billboard has been removed from the site which is a goodish sign.

opus

JupiterKid wrote: »

Any recent photos of the progress on the major new construction schemes in the city (Penrose Dock, Horgan’s Quay, student apartments, hotels etc) ?

Have a look at the threads on this forum, plenty of recent pics there.

Tomtom364

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Not sure, think they are closing down the tender and getting close to demolition. All but 1 billboard has been removed from the site which is a goodish sign.

Doesn't appear that tender has been sent out yet.

SleetAndSnow

Tomtom364 wrote: »

Doesn't appear that tender has been sent out yet.

skyscrapercity saying ''PROC are saying that the tender did in fact go out and that Bam, Vision and Cfield are on the tender list.''

Hoping this is the case anyway!

Tomtom364

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

skyscrapercity saying ''PROC are saying that the tender did in fact go out and that Bam, Vision and Cfield are on the tender list.''

Hoping this is the case anyway!

I'll know a few very peeved people if that is the case and the extent of the list.

snotboogie

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

skyscrapercity saying ''PROC are saying that the tender did in fact go out and that Bam, Vision and Cfield are on the tender list.''

Hoping this is the case anyway!

Lots of hearsay on PROC, for every substantiated rumour (they called the tower at the sextant months out) there are three trolls taking the piss (International shipping HQ by the docklands, Samsung going into the amgen site, Airbus and Nissan both moving to Cork due to Brexit).

marno21

snotboogie wrote: »

Lots of hearsay on PROC, for every substantiated rumour (they called the tower at the sextant months out) there are three trolls taking the piss (International shipping HQ by the docklands, Samsung going into the amgen site, Airbus and Nissan both moving to Cork due to Brexit).

Open to correction but I believe there was something to that Nissan site. There was talks of them moving their Sunderland operations to the area.

Airbus and Samsung.. lol

snotboogie

Tomtom364 wrote: »

I'll know a few very peeved people if that is the case and the extent of the list.

Since you do have a bit of inside info and are ruling out the Prism, are you seeing any big project set to start before the end of the year?

snotboogie

marno21 wrote: »

Open to correction but I believe there was something to that Nissan site. There was talks of them moving their Sunderland operations to the area.

Airbus and Samsung.. lol

To be fair I think it was one of the far less glamorous divisions of Samsung that was being mooted, medical devices I think? Even still, nothing happened!

marno21

Glenveagh rep on RedFM this morning saying last year would be the last year of Live at the Marquee as the site would be needed for construction shortly afterwards.

Tomtom364

snotboogie wrote: »

Since you do have a bit of inside info and are ruling out the Prism, are you seeing any big project set to start before the end of the year?

Not really from my point of view. Could be a few in early 2020.

From what I can see there appears to be a disparity between the expected budgets being put against projects for financing and the tender quotes being received for same. This is resulting in a large number of projects going back for refinancing after the tender stage. This is happening with both public and private jobs.
For example, the new oncology outpatients department at the south infirmary which just completed completed its second tendering process ( well not completed they are all submitted as of last week) with a largely unchanged design. The original tender process was completed early 2018 if i remember correctly

snotboogie

https://twitter.com/vflorish/status/1187393681512435712?s=19

Markcheese

Any idea how many storeys high the new kino building will be?

chalkitdown1

marno21 wrote: »

Glenveagh rep on RedFM this morning saying last year would be the last year of Live at the Marquee as the site would be needed for construction shortly afterwards.

You nean next year?

marno21

Grant Thornton to double Cork workforce to 200, and move to Penrose Dock

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/grant-thornton-to-double-cork-staff-with-new-office-959568.html

snotboogie

marno21 wrote: »

Grant Thornton to double Cork workforce to 200, and move to Penrose Dock

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/grant-thornton-to-double-cork-staff-with-new-office-959568.html

Good to see! Especially with the bad news from Novartis this week. Still really interested to see who the main tenants will be in Penrose Dock, according the the figures in the article, Grant Thornton will only be taking 5% of the available floor space. That leaves plenty for a marquee multinational....

Anyone know what exactly is happening at Navigation Square? I though Phase 2 was supposed to be completed in October? It looks like they are building at the back of Phase 1 now? Still no tenants announced since Clearstream as far as I have seen...

Flesh Gorden

Markcheese wrote: »

Any idea how many storeys high the new kino building will be?

17 beds isn't much for student accommodation.

3-5 beds are the average per student flat, so it wouldn't surprise me if it stays the same height, or only sees one extra storey but with a fancy rooftop terrace added.

It's the word basement that caught my eye, especially so close to the river.

fonecrusher1

Passed by the old Crows Nest site down by victoria cross earlier today. No sign of anything happening at all yet with regards commencement of construction of student accommodation.

TheChizler

UCC funds are in dire straits right now, I wonder will it be put on the long finger.

ScrubsfanChris

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https://i.imgur.com/9UuYNpG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/zcJGNCV.jpg

opus

Markcheese wrote: »

Any idea how many storeys high the new kino building will be?

I took a walk past it heading to work this morning, doesn't say the height on the planning notice but guessing similar to what's there already going by the number of rooms but with some sort of roof terrace.

Rhys Essien

I see the Abbey Theatre is getting an €80m cheque by the department to be redeveloped. I suppose lucky for them they’re in the right city. No questions asked.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/80m-facelift-for-abbey-theatre-moves-closer-960643.html