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Shannon Airport Thread [Mod Warning in First Post]

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This thread is to discuss all things Shannon Airport related.

Warning, any back biting, regional nonsense, trolling, baiting or back seat modding will lead to bans.

It's also important to remember than that this thread is in a regional forum, not the Aviation forum, if you want to get into details on Aviation, go to that forum. Finally, this is the Clare forum, there will be a bias towards Clare in here, so expect folk to want to defend their county .

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Poxyshamrock

Both Rome and Santander are showing up as destinations from Shannon on Lauda’s website. Future Ryanair routes?

Brennans Row

Corsair International flight SS924 from Paris Orly to Fort De France Caribbean diverted to Shannon today.

Reason unknown.

Brennans Row

The UK Airport Provisional Statistics for August are out.

September is not looking better . . .

Separate figures from the Central Statistics Office show fewer tourists from Britain have been travelling to the Republic, a shift that is linked the current Brexit-related weakness in sterling, which has dented their spending power (Irish Times).

knockon

United wrapped up its seasonal service to EWR today for approx 5 months.

golfball37

Bratislava is only about 40 mins away too from Vienna. Both lovely cities on the Danube

Tiernster7

VG31 wrote: »

That was Austrian Airlines.

Ah right, in any case youd guess the route will do well

VG31

Tiernster7 wrote: »

Have lauda had charters on this route in recent years, I think they might and the route is relatively proven

That was Austrian Airlines.

Tiernster7

Damiencm wrote: »

Great to have any announcement to be fair. But... and dont give out to me!!

The schedule does not really fit with a long weekend city break.

Also Vienna is a prime destination for xmas markets..hopefully the initial schedule will be extended beyond October 2020

Honestly don't have much of a problem with this. Anything that offers more choice is to be welcomed.

Have lauda had charters on this route in recent years, I think they might and the route is relatively proven

lisasimpson

It's a pity the service ends in Oct as it's one of the best Christmas markets. Not a bad destination and easy to get to Prague from Vienna too. Hopefully the airport ups their game in promoting this new route. Supporters of the airport too could do a small bit too and share the news on their social media. As it not traditional ryanair/air lingus it's easy for people to forget the service is there

Damiencm

Cookiemunster wrote:

Now it's been announced. Lauda, Wednesdays and Saturdays, running from late March to October.

Great to have any announcement to be fair. But... and dont give out to me!!

The schedule does not really fit with a long weekend city break.

Also Vienna is a prime destination for xmas markets..hopefully the initial schedule will be extended beyond October 2020

highlydebased

Hop would be an ideal carrier for CDG but the challenge is they fly from Cork currently

Transavia France another option for Orly but they're not in expansion mode at all

Tiernster7

This is a good start, a nice destination with only Dublin for competition.

Any idea how much this will have cost them ?

tototoe

Cookiemunster wrote: »

There was a route to CDG brought in when EI pulled the LHR route. I'm pretty sure it was only pulled after EI reinstated the LHR route.

It was cityjet, on a small plane, with stupidly priced tickets. They pulled in 2009.

JCX BXC

Cookiemunster wrote: »

You are correct. I got that mixed up. I still don't thing that load factors were the reason they pulled SNN - BVA though (or moved Berlin).

Eh, the yield was muck for BVA, did you see the fares flights were sold at?

Cookiemunster

JCX BXC wrote: »

No they moved Berlin, Beauvais was cut.
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You are correct. I got that mixed up. I still don't thing that load factors were the reason they pulled SNN - BVA though (or moved Berlin).

JCX BXC

Cookiemunster wrote: »

FR had a route to Beauvais and moved it to KIR. I don't thing that passenger loads was the reason for that.

No they moved Berlin, Beauvais was cut.

Neither Kerry or Beauvais is a base, so that would be virtually impossible to operate.

Cookiemunster

Now it's been announced. Lauda, Wednesdays and Saturdays, running from late March to October.

https://www.shannonairport.ie/passengers/news-media/latest-news/2019/new-vienna-service-announced-for-shannon-airport/

Did they have to get a photo op in front of the ex Air Berlin with Lauda Motion titles that's been returned to the lessor though?

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Tiernster7

No confirmation on this thst I can see...

Cookiemunster

knipex wrote: »

Didn't Shannon have a regular connection to Paris but lost it due to low passenger numbers ??

There was a route to CDG brought in when EI pulled the LHR route. I'm pretty sure it was only pulled after EI reinstated the LHR route.

FR had a route to Beauvais and moved it to KIR. I don't thing that passenger loads was the reason for that.

knipex

golfball37 wrote: »

New twice weekly service to Vienna announced for 2020. I hope this is the start of branching out in Europe for Shannon. Paris or Amsterdam is badly needed.

Didn't Shannon have a regular connection to Paris but lost it due to low passenger numbers ??

Cookiemunster

JCX BXC wrote: »

With who?

At least it's not all doom and gloom!

Most likely Lauda I'd assume, but I've seen nothing from Shannon or any airline, so I'd say using the word 'announced' is a bit premature.

JCX BXC

golfball37 wrote: »

New twice weekly service to Vienna announced for 2020. I hope this is the start of branching out in Europe for Shannon. Paris or Amsterdam is badly needed.

With who?

At least it's not all doom and gloom!

golfball37

New twice weekly service to Vienna announced for 2020. I hope this is the start of branching out in Europe for Shannon. Paris or Amsterdam is badly needed.

knipex

Brennans Row wrote: »

I believe in the early days Molex had a 50% share in Smithstown Light Engineering.

Great to see a an independent home grown company doing very well today.

According to the SLE website Molex bought into the company in 1984 but were bought out in 2006 and they appear to have gone from strength to strength since..

But its not only Smithstown. Lots of Engineering companies doing well. Shannon precision, Lenane Precision, Ohshima and many others are expanding and investing.

Its far from all bad news in Shannon but it is all we appear to hear about..

Brennans Row

knipex wrote: »

Molex were hit hard by the US China trade war but they appear to have been recruiting until recently

Trump is an elephant in porcelain shop.

How ironic to see an American company to lose out globally as a result.

knipex wrote: »

The entire precision engineering sector appears to be doing very well, and the aviation sector appears to be very resilient

I believe in the early days Molex had a 50% share in Smithstown Light Engineering.

Great to see a an independent home grown company doing very well today.

knipex

tv221 wrote: »

A real shame. All's not well at Element Six either. Jobs going on weekly basis. The massive old Tellabs plant across the road from molex on the market as well.

Molex were hit hard by the US China trade war but they appear to have been recruiting until recently..

Element 6 has, to my knowledge, been up and down for quite a while.

Older industries arent transitioning well and are struggling in the high cost Irish economy. But in saying that a number of manufacturing companies in Shannon are doing very well.

The entire precision engineering sector appears to be doing very well, and the aviation sector appears to be very resilient

knipex

Brennans Row wrote: »

Its a mystery to me because the Group has already completed €40 million on capital projects in the last few years.

Perhaps.. but they also sold a number of properties, and are generating significant profits.

One thing that did surprise me is that they adjusted the value of property holdings DOWN 15 million and are showing a 450K loss on sales of investment properties in 2018..

Brennans Row wrote: »

Yes, but cash is normally part of working capital and should not be used to finance long term capital investments.

Here is a 2019 capital project and will interesting to see its treatment in this years balance sheet.

Shannon Group on target to deliver €18m hangar (Clare Herald)

I agree I was merely pointing out that liquidity is not an issue. They added nearly 6 million to their cash balance in 2018. That's a not insignificant sum.

They are a profitable company,
Have significant cash reserves
significant assets
and very low debt levels..

They would have no problem accessing capital if required.

tv221

Brennans Row wrote: »

Molex to cease operations by end of 2020 (Clare Herald)

There had been speculation that an announcement was imminent from Molex which was established in Shannon in 1971.

The company has now confirmed plans to close the facility by the end of 2020 resulting in 500 workers being impacted.

Molex brings together innovation and technology to deliver electronic solutions to customers worldwide. With a presence in more than 40 countries, Molex offers a full suite of solutions and services for many markets, including data communications, consumer electronics, medical, industrial, automotive, and commercial vehicle.

A real shame. All's not well at Element Six either. Jobs going on weekly basis. The massive old Tellabs plant across the road from molex on the market as well.

Brennans Row

Molex to cease operations by end of 2020 (Clare Herald)

There had been speculation that an announcement was imminent from Molex which was established in Shannon in 1971.

The company has now confirmed plans to close the facility by the end of 2020 resulting in 500 workers being impacted.

Molex brings together innovation and technology to deliver electronic solutions to customers worldwide. With a presence in more than 40 countries, Molex offers a full suite of solutions and services for many markets, including data communications, consumer electronics, medical, industrial, automotive, and commercial vehicle.

Brennans Row

knipex wrote: »

Not rocket science

Debts of €18.389 million.

Its a mystery to me because the Group has already completed €40 million on capital projects in the last few years.

knipex wrote: »

They also appear to have high level of cash on hand (15.725 million at the end of 2018) so they have the capability of making the investment themselves.

Yes, but cash is normally part of working capital and should not be used to finance long term capital investments.

Here is a 2019 capital project and will interesting to see its treatment in this years balance sheet.

Shannon Group on target to deliver €18m hangar (Clare Herald)