Cody montana wrote: » Last week was his worst so far, it's only Tuesday and it's not looking good. They are going to try and discredit Bill Taylor, they are going to lie, they are going to blame the democrats. Anything but accept the truth.
mcmoustache wrote: » I'm still waiting for the Trump twitter tantrum. Have any of the loonier parts of the internet got their talking points together yet?
mcmoustache wrote: » I expect an imminent nickname for Taylor who begged for a job and that Trump barely knew him.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » You can read Taylor's statement here:https://twitter.com/JoelLawsonDC/status/1186725908255780870?s=19
Overheal wrote: » WaPo has the opening testimony.
Cody montana wrote: » This could be the beginning of the end. President Mike Pence anyone?
mcmoustache wrote: » Being a careerist, he took memos as he went. It adds a lot of credibility to his testimony. It will be interesting to see how everyone's testimony lines up. If Sondland lied or omitted, he might get a chance to be called back to "clarify". I've mentioned before that the quid-pro-quo wasn't even necessary for this to be illegal. Simply asking a foreign government for electoral help is illegal enough. The QPQ is just a nice bonus since Trump and his surrogates spent so much time trying to convince everyone that it wasn't so bad because there was no QPQ - implying that a QPQ was in fact bad. I expect an imminent nickname for Taylor who begged for a job and that Trump barely knew him.
mcmoustache wrote: » A large part of his base won't change their minds on Trump. it's a strange phenomenon but it is what it is. At the moment, support for impeachment and removal is at around 50% and on an upward trajectory. Clinton and Nixon were on 32% and 58% respectively by the end. I don't think it's possible for the numbers to go up to 58% in this case but that depends on how Trump behaves over the next few weeks. But, lets say it gets to something like 53% or 54%. This would put the republicans in a tight spot. If the republicans clear him in the face of clear evidence of wrong-doing, that will annoy and motivate a lot of voters to turf them out. That wouldn't normally be a big deal, depending on which senators are up for reelection in 2020. The thing is, out of 35 seats, 23 are republican and 12 are democrat held. To make things worse, several republican senators are already polling poorly (Thillis, Gardner, Ernst, Collins and McSally). The Dems don't have that problem at the moment. I don't know exactly how this will factor into their decision making but it will certainly be considered.
MadYaker wrote: » So is Sondland just a Trump stooge then who's going to protect the dear leader? You'd wonder how all these rich, accomplished and presumably smart people could think it was wise to get involved with a loose cannon like trump?
Bobtheman wrote: » I wish I had time to rea d all the posts here but we know that unless public opinion swings against Trump this won't pass the Senate where it really happens . So far his base is behind him but depends on what comes out. What's out there at the moment ain't enough
Overheal wrote: » Rep. Ami Bera (D-Calif.), a member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, told CNN that Taylor was being “candid,” but did not provide details about his morning testimony. “He’s filling in some gaps,” Bera said, adding that Taylor’s resume makes it hard for Republicans and the White House to impugn his credibility. “His memory and recollection seems to be a lot better than Ambassador Sondland’s,” Bera said, referring to Trump donor and ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland, who appeared before the committees last week.https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/diplomat-who-raised-alarm-about-withholding-aid-to-ukraine-testifies-in-impeachment-probe/2019/10/22/086fb850-f436-11e9-8cf0-4cc99f74d127_story.html
Cody montana wrote: » New: Per source in the room, Bill Taylor’s opening statement was 15 pages long and prompted “a lot of sighs and gasps.”
Spencerfreeman wrote: » I think it only proves that Trump gave assurances to Sondland, an amateur Ambassador.
Overheal wrote: » Or the Nunes memo. Let’s be clear though, the pelosi sheet excluding the Sondland text was a favor - it does nothing to exculpate the President, it only confirms Trump was engaged in an attempt to coverup quid pro quo that was facilitated by Sondland.
Spencerfreeman wrote: » Don't kid yourself, it will be partisan and selective, like Pelosi's fact sheet.
