osarusan wrote: » He's safe until the GOP decide he's more trouble than he's worth. The GOP will be looking at polls and public opinion and gauging where public sentiment is, and if they conclude that backing him will cost them future votes and future seats, they won't back him. I don't believe the Democrats have any honourable or principled reasons for initiating this impeachment process. They've done so because they think that politically, it's worth it to do so - it will benefit them overall. Similarly, whatever the Republicans do will by motivated by what they believe is best for them politically too, rather than any particular principles. At the moment I think his party are a long way from turning on him though.
Matt Barrett wrote: » I think he's safe unless he continues to turn on the GOP hierarchy.
duploelabs wrote: » Nancy Pelosi releases a fact sheet detailing Trump's betrayal of his oath of office.https://www.speaker.gov/sites/speaker.house.gov/files/Trump%20Shakedown%20and%20Coverup.pdf
Boggles wrote: » Speaking of the white press secretary. What does she actually do? Seems a waste of money. Again the danger of precedent, do future White Houses going forward refuse to engage with the press?
Boggles wrote: » Again the danger of precedent, do future White Houses going forward refuse to engage with the press?
Matt Barrett wrote: » The WH press secretary says they did it and do it all the time, "get over it". He failed in trying to normalise the obscene, which Trump has a skill for.
notobtuse wrote: » Obama played the birther movement up for political gain. He loved it. He had his birth certificate at the start of it all, yet waited over a year to release it. I'm talking more of the other stuff made up based on lies and some criminal activity to justify impeachment like the bogus Russian collusion, obstruction, and quid pro quo.
rossie1977 wrote: » Just to point out Republicans wanted to impeach Obama over:
notobtuse wrote: » I understand Barr approved an expanded scope of the Durham probe to include former DNI director Clapper, former FBI director Brennan, any Department of Justice actions taken in 2017 after Trump took office, and abuses of Operation Crossfire Hurricane. Barr probably approved this expansion of the probe because of what Durham has already found. Even NBC is now reporting that intelligence operatives are lawyering up. Seems the probe has now gone from review to full-blown criminal investigation. I expect the mainstream media will generally be ignoring most of this and continue their 24/7 coverage of the impeachment witch-hunt. Sucks that Hillary didn’t win and all this apparent criminal activity of Democrats, the Obama administration and his political appointees into the DNI, FBI, DOJ and State Department would have been swept under the rug, eh?
notobtuse wrote: » That's all you got?
notobtuse wrote: » Good for Obama releasing his tax returns. He didn't have to. Employee means being paid. How much are his family members making for their work? What kind of salary is Trump getting from Trump business operations? And if you make the claim he is indirectly getting paid through wealth increases I might disagree as I've read his business dealing have been negatively impacted by all the Trump hatred since taking office. And if you want to go down the wealth avenue perhaps every president should sell off all their stock investments upon taking office as their actions might benefit the stocks they hold. Right? Just because Obama’s Department of Justice, his appointees in the FBI, and the media who loved him didn’t investigate his corruption doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. His corruption apparently was rampant, and more corruption seems to be coming out every day. Obama learned much being a Chicago politician.https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/think-obama-administration-wasnt-corrupt-think-again/
rossie1977 wrote: » Yeah the editor of Breitbart said it so must be true. I mean you could have linked D'Souzas movie.. Bit of fun, if right wing media covered Trump like they did Obama
rossie1977 wrote: » I was replying to Pete who was complaining about attempts to impeach Trump. My point was Obama released his tax returns, he didn't employee family members in high ranking positions or not divest from his business, no examples of obstruction of justice.. In 8 years no member of the Obama team was criminally indicted, convicted of a crime or sent to prison. And yet we have multiple attempts to impeach the guy. Republicans didn't even need a reason to impeach as they in their own words 'would find a way'. In less than 2 years there have been 89 criminal indictments under this current President. 22 prison sentences handed out during Nixon, Reagan and Bush Jr terms. 1 prison sentence and 1 criminal conviction during the terms of Carter, Clinton and Obama and yet it's funny that's when an impeachment happened.
notobtuse wrote: » Your point? Democrats have tried to impeach every Republican president since Ronald Reagan.
Matt Barrett wrote: » I would think it would. Making up stuff like the birther movement?
notobtuse wrote: » It doesn't matter who the Republican president is, or what they have done, because Democrats will be using the tactic of impeachment by making $hit up against Republicans, forever more, knowing the media have become mere scribes of the DNC.
Matt Barrett wrote: » Surely not war criminal G.W. who brought the U.S. into an illegitimate war so pals could make money? The curs Point might be low grade party elects low grade people to run for President?
rossie1977 wrote: » Just to point out Republicans wanted to impeach Obama over: Bathroom bill https://www.reuters.com/article/us-oklahoma-lgbt/some-in-oklahoma-statehouse-urge-obama-impeachment-over-bathroom-rule-idUSKCN0YB1Z0 Not extending Bush tax cuts https://thinkprogress.org/norquist-republicans-will-impeach-obama-if-he-doesnt-extend-bush-tax-cuts-24c5879d6c6/ Benghazi https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2014/05/republicans-want-to-impeach-president-obama-for-benghazi-gop-fears-they-will-look-crazy.html Using executive orders https://www.mediamatters.org/michael-savage/savage-declares-emerging-dictator-obama-be-out-control-and-says-i-think-it-time Not defending marriage law https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/387455?section=Headline&keywords=Gingrich-Obama-Constitutional-Crisis&year=2011&month=02&date=25&id=387455&oref=www.mediamatters.org Arab spring https://www.mediamatters.org/tammy-bruce/right-wing-radio-host-tammy-bruce-calls-obama-be-investigated-possibly-impeached-over?redirect_source=/blog/2011/02/01/right-wing-radio-host-tammy-bruce-calls-for-oba/17584 https://www.theamericanconservative.com/2011/03/24/impeach-barack-obama/ A prisoner exchange https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/06/23/south-dakota-wants-to-impeach-president-obama-theyll-have-to-get-in-line/ Illegal immigrants and debt https://www.politico.com/story/2014/07/sarah-palin-impeach-barack-obama-108658 Obama became dictator https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/327491-bachmann-house-could-impeach-dictator-obama Pushing his agenda https://www.politico.com/story/2011/08/rep-burgess-impeach-obama-060949 Because they did not like him and would find something https://newrepublic.com/article/78198/republicans-impeach-obama In 8 years Obama or any of his team were not indicted or convicted of any crime and nobody was jailed.
MadYaker wrote: » Well he must have gotten the message somehow, id say his lawyers had a word.
