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Random EV thoughts.....

Old diesel

The main motors forum has the motors chat thread for the little things one would like to say but might not justify a thread.

Thought it might be an idea for here re hybrids and EV stuff.....

To kick off - i wonder if a new measurement for EVs might be assuming a start trip at 100 percent......

A how much range do you get with a 15 minute stop.

With a 350 kw charging a Porsche Tayman might do very well with getting on for 400 miles...

A Leaf 62 not so good.

Obviously where a car can do more then 50 kw charging we would need both a 50 kw and a whatever the cars top rate is figure*.

*IF chargers are available

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liamog

unkel wrote: »

About bloody time. Most of An Post vans in the Dublin area could / should have been EV by now. The Kangoo ZE was more or less produced because of demand from the French post office

I heard Zoes were in short supply a couple of years ago due to French Post taking all the manufacturing capacity.

You also see alot of these around Paris

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They are extended e-NV200s called a Voltia

unkel

About bloody time. Most of An Post vans in the Dublin area could / should have been EV by now. The Kangoo ZE was more or less produced because of demand from the French post office

marklazarcovic

They installed 20 odd chargers inside our complex at work for vans, only 3 running as of today,have enquired if we can charge a personal ev whilst out working with a ev van .. we shall see.

We have 3 of the new kangoos, lots more coming.

An post fwiw.

Black_Knight

from_atozinc wrote: »

Hi.

This relates to public charging via your own cable.
If the car only has a 3.6 onboard charger - is there any point in getting a 32amp rated public charge cable?

Futureproofing I guess. Cables aint cheap, and a Type 2 32amp cable will likely do you for years to come. The cost difference between a 16 and 32amp cable isn't massive either.

from_atozinc

Hi.

This relates to public charging via your own cable.
If the car only has a 3.6 onboard charger - is there any point in getting a 32amp rated public charge cable?

charlieIRL

Black_Knight wrote: »

Contemplating selling it and getting a straight 8m cable (easier to dry with a towel too). :mad:

If its a 32a, let me know as i'm currently looking for one.

innrain

Here a picture I posted on plugshare.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/plugshare.production.photos/photos/486687.jpg

KCross

innrain wrote: »

I find the coiled one more convenient as it does not trail on the ground, you don't need to coil it every time you finished charging. If there is some water on it just shake it off.

Thats the main benefit really. Trying to get a 5m straight cable looped up to fit in the bag is tiresome. The coiled cable is trivial... just shove it in and you dont have to touch it at all really so the wet doesnt matter.

innrain

I got a 2.5m coiled one. The charging port is in the front and usually the chargers are very close. I have it for 4 months now and I needed the supplied one just once. Which I also keep in the compartment under the trunk with the granny.
I find the coiled one more convenient as it does not trail on the ground, you don't need to coil it every time you finished charging. If there is some water on it just shake it off.

Black_Knight

NIMAN wrote: »

I had a standard cable and changed to a coiled one.

Find it handy, but as said it is harder to get it to stretch any great length.

Luckily I have never had to do that.

I got a coiled one for home charging. Charger to car is about 5 meters, so my parking would of had to be very specific to get things to reach. Went with an 8m coiled one, and honestly it was a mistake. It reaches, but it pulls on both the charger and the car charge port at a 90 degree angle. I wouldn't imagine i'd get much more than 6 meters out of it. Contemplating selling it and getting a straight 8m cable (easier to dry with a towel too). :mad:

NIMAN

I had a standard cable and changed to a coiled one.

Find it handy, but as said it is harder to get it to stretch any great length.

Luckily I have never had to do that.

from_atozinc

KCross wrote: »

Personal preference really but Im happy with it.

Thanks. If car is 3.3 onboard charger, any point in getting a 32 amp cable?

I presume a 16 amp and 32 amp will work ok on a 3.3 Nissan Leaf.

KCross

from_atozinc wrote: »

So would you recommend it over the standard cable?

Personal preference really but Im happy with it.

from_atozinc

KCross wrote: »

Yes, I have one. Works exactly as you said.

Two downsides, a 5m coiled cable isnt really 5m as you loose some length in the coils so factor that in if you buy one.

And they are heavier... no big deal, still fits in the standard Nissan bag.

So would you recommend it over the standard cable?

KCross

Yes, I have one. Works exactly as you said.

Two downsides, a 5m coiled cable isnt really 5m as you loose some length in the coils so factor that in if you buy one.

And they are heavier... no big deal, still fits in the standard Nissan bag.

from_atozinc

Anyone here use a ‘coiled’ public charge cable. Seems good as its coiled so when you plug from car to charging station it does not drag along wet ground, obviously will get wet when raining. Anyone have one?

Picture attached.

from_atozinc

Anyone here use a ‘coiled’ public charge cable. Seems good as it’s coiled so when you plug from car to charging station it does not drag along wet ground, obviously will get wet but does not drag on ground. Anyone have one?

Picture attached.

unkel

Long range AWD then probably. Like my best mate in the Netherlands. It's pretty quick, 0-100km/h in 4.5s :cool:

yer man!

unkel wrote: »

Is his a company car? Nearly all of them over there are SR+ (bottom of the range) :pac:

He mentioned he got the Long range version, it's a lovely car. As far as I know the Tesla dealer here in Amsterdam had all three versions of the model 3 available. He just got whatever was available at the time.

unkel

yer man! wrote: »

It's made me hungrier to try faster and larger EVs! I need to ask my neighbour if I can try out his model 3.

Is his a company car? Nearly all of them over there are SR+ (bottom of the range) :pac:

liamog

Black_Knight wrote: »

Both ends of the scale so

Need to go for a full P100D Model X to be at the full top end

Black_Knight

yer man! wrote: »

It's made me hungrier to try faster and larger EVs! I need to ask my neighbour if I can try out his model 3.

Both ends of the scale so

yer man!

unkel wrote: »

That's probably the slowest, smallest range EV money can buy these days. But hey all EVs are fun to drove as you found out

It's made me hungrier to try faster and larger EVs! I need to ask my neighbour if I can try out his model 3.

bilbot79

bilbot79 wrote: »

Has anyone heard of replacement battery costs for a leaf? Thinking of getting one as a run around. You can get one of the older ones for about 6k over the water and I was thinking if you could replace the battery it would be worth it.

Anyone know if you can put a new, higher kWh battery in an older leaf?

Reply from Nissan

'Thank you for your email.

High voltage batteries in Nissan Leaf are extremely expensive to simply replace, however, should you like further confirmation of your vehicle's battery condition, please contact your local dealer and request they perform a ‘cell voltage loss inspection’ on your vehicle’s high voltage battery.

There is no option to replace the battery with a larger one from a newer model or increase your original batteries capacity.

Your local authorised Nissan repairer can provide you with a parts quotation for a new battery or repair of your original should one be required.'

from_atozinc

kceire wrote: »

Late 2015 is when the 30 kWh version became available.

In Ireland also? Or just UK?

unkel

yer man! wrote: »

Drove my first EV today, been meaning to drive one for years now but never made the time for it. My work just got a Smart ForFour Electric

That's probably the slowest, smallest range EV money can buy these days. But hey all EVs are fun to drove as you found out

Gumbo

from_atozinc wrote: »

is the 30kw car more than likely a uk import? (or were they available in Ireland in 2015)

Late 2015 is when the 30 kWh version became available.

yer man!

Drove my first EV today, been meaning to drive one for years now but never made the time for it. My work just got a Smart ForFour Electric for anybody to use for visiting clients or whatever. It's class! loved the torque and the quietness of it. I used to have a diesel golf but I can't see myself going back to something like that for my next car, the smoothness of the power transition and general driving was far more relaxing compared to the golf.

I'll be finding more and more excuses to bring this car around the area from work!

slave1

KCross wrote: »

The warranty is a good point although the chances of claiming on the drivetrain warranty is fairly slim and I think the general warranty is 3yrs(?) so probably already gone on both cars.

I used the warranty on mine to get a new axle, new windscreen and 4 new alloys!

Yeah, general warranty has expired on both, it's 3 years

from_atozinc

from_atozinc wrote: »

so here is my very high level prediction (of sorts)

1. I can get a 2014 24 kw for maybe 9000 euro
2. I can get a December 2015 30kw for maybe 12,500 euro

both private sales
Is it worth while spending the extra 3,500 to get the 30kw

is the 30kw car more than likely a uk import? (or were they available in Ireland in 2015)