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Rugby World Cup 2019 Japan The hunt for Webb Ellis

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So there will be squads announced and world cup news popping up sooner rather than later so have at it

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jr86

FrancieBrady wrote: »

So, you were gonna outline how you reckon the Welsh 'turned up'?

They didn't, they were well below their own performance level even in this tournament.

They made a semi because another team basically beat themselves.

I am happy for them...in the way I'd be happy for someone who won on a scratchcard.

For crying out loud I never said they turned up today specifically

It's a more generic comment

You seem to have an almost unhealthy obsession with knocking everything England and Wales

I'd bite your hand off for Ireland to make a semi by any bloody means necessary.

sydthebeat

So...

We're all on the Japan bandwagon yeah??

I've switched over to eir cos its too raw to watch the recap of yesterday's game

Bridge93

Has anyone said they were convincing? A few have said they won and that’s all that matters

jr86

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Why should we be better than Wales?

Our clubs deliver in Europe, we have a better 15 on paper, much more depth and more often than not we're more consistent than them

Yet they have an incredible winning mentality. They were helped out well today, but they still won the crucial group game to avoid England and overall they have form for really turning up in the big matches

FrancieBrady

jr86 wrote: »

The only facts that matter are the winner of the game I'm afraid

Unfortunately performance levels and subjective opinions don't come into it

I'm more looking on with envy really. We should be a much better side than Wales yet they have the two semis to back it up. And the grand slams!

So, you were gonna outline how you reckon the Welsh 'turned up'?

They didn't, they were well below their own performance level even in this tournament.

They made a semi because another team basically beat themselves.

I am happy for them...in the way I'd be happy for someone who won on a scratchcard.

fonecrusher1

Fair play to Wales but dear god did they just about shuffle across the finish line here against a typically harebrained France with 14 players. And the ball going forward there before that try...... wow. Just bizarre that wasn't picked up.

A win is a win yes but if you can't see how utterly unconvincing that was either your clueless about rugby or maybe missed portions of the game.

Course we're bitter if we don't say well done Wales a great result. :rolleyes:

[Deleted User]

Why should we be better than Wales?

Bridge93

Wales got immensely lucky. They will need to improve and they will I’d imagine. They won’t care one bit how they got there. France has there chances didn’t take them. Gifted wales a few tries. Continued to pick an ogre in second row despite knowing his behavior.

If we were up to much ourselves we would be on this side of the draw to capitalize. We aren’t because unlike France and wales we lost our crunch group game and paid the price in the draw

jr86

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Do tell us though how you figure they 'turned up'? France should have put them away even with 14 men.

They got lucky, very lucky as it turns out, nothing bitter in stating the facts.

The only facts that matter are the winner of the game I'm afraid

Unfortunately performance levels and subjective opinions don't come into it

I'm more looking on with envy really. We should be a much better side than Wales yet they have the two semis to back it up. And the grand slams!

jr86

MadYaker wrote: »

They were poor. They only won because the french threw it away and they got a try off a forward pass. They looked very different to the Wales who beat Australia a few weeks ago. If they can turn it around they might make the final though.

They were woeful against France in 6n too but won the slam. Like Ireland 2018

Every game is different.

I expect a huge performance from them in the semis. They'll need it

is_that_so

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Marginally less worse team.:)

Neither were tearing it up, lets be honest.

Well, a game of two halves. French doing what they do best in first half but blew it through missed kicks , usual indiscipline and some red mist. Wales did what they do best by hanging in and nicking it.

Danthemanhere

jr86 wrote: »

Zero doubt about it. Two world cup semis, two undefeated lions tours, a few grand slams to boot. The guy is a legend!

Let's not bring up O'Sullivan shafting him.

FrancieBrady

jr86 wrote: »

I don't give a jot how they won, and nor will they

They just made a world cup semi. Tis a results business I'm afraid

Do tell us though how you figure they 'turned up'? France should have put them away even with 14 men.

They got lucky, very lucky as it turns out, nothing bitter in stating the facts.

jr86

Danthemanhere wrote: »

Fair play to Gatland. He delivers. Probably the best manager in Europe.

Zero doubt about it. Two world cup semis, two undefeated lions tours, a few grand slams to boot. The guy is a legend!

jr86

thomond2006 wrote: »

Time to give France the Mayo jerseys they deserve.

"Mayo bottlers" aren't you hilarious

Guy:Incognito

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Better team lost according to warren gatland.

Marginally less worse team.:)

Neither were tearing it up, lets be honest.

Danthemanhere

Fair play to Gatland. He delivers. Probably the best manager in Europe.

is_that_so

razorblunt wrote: »

If they get the Boks they might put Warrenball them but you’d fancy the Japanese in the Battle of the non existent offside line and ruck entries.

Think the Japanese fairy tale will be firmly driven over today.

jr86

[Deleted User] wrote: »

French implosion or no, they won that match

Interesting

Will be fascinating to see how they bounce back next weekend . Will ntamack be fit?

Itssoeasy

Better team lost according to warren gatland.

Danthemanhere

sydthebeat wrote: »

Can't understand why they didn't look at the 9 being off side for that rip....

Seems to have been a mile off

The French scrum half asked the ref to check but they never did. Clearly offside.

jr86

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Your eyes must be well able to deceive you. The Welsh won by a point against 14 men with a dodgy forward pass decision.

They didn't 'turn up', the French brain went home.

*p.s. All sporting rivals do 'bitterness'. It's kinda what rivalry is all about.

I don't give a jot how they won, and nor will they

They just made a world cup semi. Tis a results business I'm afraid

Loafing Oaf

Dog Murphy wrote: »

Surely France should have been trying to work a drop goal from the time it was 19 -13.

The had a great period of possession with around 15-20 minutes to go and decided to keep on running the ball instead of working a drop goal opportunity.

Really poor lack of game management by them in my opinion.

Never understand why teams don't do this more in tight games anyway. Stuart Barnes had an article making this point a few weeks ago.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/joel-stransky-went-down-in-history-for-1995-kick-and-it-may-happen-again-krw2dgp25

is_that_so

Danthemanhere wrote: »

And the ball went forward!

It was where it ended up that got them the try. Utterly random bounce of the ball.

razorblunt

Western Pomise wrote: »

Have to feel sorry for the rest of French players when you see that they had to do the work for a brainless hulk and lost out in the end to a highly questionable try.

Joe Schmidt got a lot of negative press on here after yesterday’s Irish performance but you would have to question Warren Gatlands prep if this Welsh team for today.They looked like a side lacking in ideas and very lethargic.

If they get the Boks they might put Warrenball them but you’d fancy the Japanese in the Battle of the non existent offside line and ruck entries.

MadYaker

jr86 wrote: »

I think they won it alright, will have to double check but I'm almost sure they're into the semi next week

They were poor. They only won because the french threw it away and they got a try off a forward pass. They looked very different to the Wales who beat Australia a few weeks ago. If they can turn it around they might make the final though.

ionadnapóca

Just when you think Wales will loose -they win
Just when you think Ireland will perform -they capitulate

RWC why do you do this to us? Why?

sydthebeat

Can't understand why they didn't look at the 9 being off side for that rip....

Seems to have been a mile off

[Deleted User]

I'm honestly happier, being Irish, having been smashed off the park than being French and have the ref decide the game (incorrectly)

French implosion or no, they won that match

thomond2006

Time to give France the Mayo jerseys they deserve.