shootermacg wrote: » Joe has gone, just let it go... It's this inquest mentality that I hate in the press, but at least they're getting paid.
Danthemanhere wrote: » He gave the journalists some copy, quick, make him captain. :pac:
bilston wrote: » Hahaha. He is potentially favourite, but it shouldn't be because he speaks to journalists!
JJJackal wrote: » The problem is the coaching ticket is unchanged at the core - even with Joe gone. Important to keep an eye on things
AbusesToilets wrote: » Central contracts contribute to the problem that continually comes re: selection. They reward past form, rather than incentivise future performances. You get situations where a contracted player is past it, but the pressure is there to pick him because of the cost of his deal. They should be scrapped, and replaced with incentive driven deals, that encourages and rewards good performance.
Shefwedfan wrote: » A number of the back grounds coach’s have gone with Joe.... The core was Joe and he is gone so what exactly are you talking about?
Shefwedfan wrote: » When you look at the s**t just played by Wales and they are in semi you have to wonder is ireland never going to get to a semi....we never get run of green
sydthebeat wrote: » Are you suggesting a complete change of coaching ticket???
Danthemanhere wrote: » I'm still puzzled as to what our coaching team have been doing for the past year. We were all thinking they must have something up their sleeves, they must be holding things back but no, they literally had nothing.
mr_edge_to_you wrote: » I think this is an excellent post. Be under no illusions, the Irish national rugby team is a business and a big one at that - it's essentially one big massive marketing project. Some centrally contracted players are amongst the best paid in Europe. In order to make a return on their investment the IRFU need these guys on the pitch and visible in the media as much as possible. I believe they do this at the expense of developing younger players and a different game. The semi-final target in RWC2019 was a tangible KPI for the IRFU and they've missed it. So I expect they'll be doing their own review in that regard. As I said, the national side is one big expensive marketing project. The annual 6 Nations and Autumn tests are the cashcows that keep the wheels greased. Unless the IRFU are prepared to give young guys opportunities to compete against the top sides in these meaningful windows, we'll never go past a quarter final. A central contract can't be a guarantee of a starting 15 jersey. They're now under pressure to perform in the 2020 6N because the world cup was in reality an abject failure. They need bums on seats to pay the bills. The IRFU need to get a better balance between financial and rugby success. Not an easy task but there's a lot of people earning a lot on money who can sort it out I'm sure.
Shefwedfan wrote: » Which young player has not been capped in the last 4 years? Who was outside the 31 squad who was a shock omission? toner and Marmion, hardly spring chickens
JJJackal wrote: » Yes, I have always thought Pat Lam would have been the ideal coach to replace Joe Schmidt
JJJackal wrote: » Maybe he is referring to the lack of starting minutes players like Joey Carberry, McGrath... had
Shefwedfan wrote: » Lam didn’t want to wait around and jumped ship to England at the first sign of a few quid....that’s his choice and nobody should complain but how exactly would they take him back?
Shefwedfan wrote: » Carbery has spent much of last 12 months injured Any time he was due to play he was sidelined....can’t say that’s Joe fault? Larmour etc all got considerable minutes
JJJackal wrote: » How many starting minutes have these players including Larmour? Starting a game is different to coming on finishing a game when a game is already won See out-half situation, has Joey ever got considerable minutes at out half versus a tier 1 nation? If Joey was injured why was there not another out half with more minutes. Carty got how many minutes in 6N? Have we a second out-half with considerable minutes on board? Carty. The out-half situation was entirely predictable. It happened at the last world cup
ScissorPaperRock wrote: » Well, there was a lot of investment in Paddy Jackson, who really was maturing as a backup to Sexton. That situation wasn't predictable, tbh.
awec wrote: » I think this WC exit is even more annoying than 2015. I honestly don't really know where we go from here. What can we change or do differently? Last time round it was obvious we didn't have the team to do the business. This time round we had the team (for the most part), they were flying at one stage, and then total collapse when it really mattered. I don't envy Andy Farrell having to dissect the past year trying to figure out where it all went wrong.
Wegians89 wrote: » All four provinces are showing positive signs recently. If Larkham adds exciting attacking ability to Munster all four provinces will be playing exciting rugby. There is a constant stream of very talented young players coming through the Irish u20 and breaking through to pro14 level. While the coaching team hasn’t been completely changed, any change at all can spark something new and rejuvenate current international players. The future is not as bleak as many are making it out to be.
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