Joe_ Public wrote: » Not half as bad as John Baron in the chamber during the week! The idea of multiple letters has been floated for a while though, hasnt it? Just feels a bit obvious and, while im no expert, i cant see it getting them very far.
Donnielighto wrote: » Could the EU send invitations to each of the parliments in the UK welcoming them and offering EU membership. Not gloating at all but just be genuine and say that we'd be happy to see them continue as European citizens. No badness, maliciousness or windup.
liamtech wrote: » Sky News apparently has a copy of the second letter requesting that, in effect, the first mandatory BENN letter should be ignored - urging the EU not to grant an extensionI cant find this letter anywhere does anyone have a link? shocking stuff - having a scoop but set into this now- long night to see what happens - Tusk has GOTTA RESPOND dont we think?? - i have faith that Tusk will have something to say on this latest ridiculous stunt
Joe_ Public wrote: » On that topic Stephanie Bolzen who is a german reporter based in London, who i find very good, was on sky yesterday saying she didnt think it would be plain sailing for the scots to get eu membership in the event of independence. Not sure of why, but was intetested to hear her opinion all the same.
Water John wrote: » The idea of forcing a Ref on this now comes up. It only lost by 12 votes when it was put before. Now the DUP may support it. If they put a bit of thought into it, they would feel better with all the UK staying in the EU as opposed to checks in the Irish Sea.
Tea Shock wrote: » I reckon the sending of multiple letters was not the big master plan to circumvent the Benn Act I reckon the passing of the deal without the accompanying legislation was the master plan....and the Letwin amendment sniffed them out.
The Rape of Lucretia wrote: » I just cant see the EU ignoring its former family members on a life raft that has escaped the sinking HMS Brittannia.
ancapailldorcha wrote: » Ok, I've cleared up a few off topic and below standard posts. Please bear the charter in mind when posting. Many thanks.
RickBlaine wrote: » If a confirmatory referendum amendment was passed, I wonder how the government would vote. Would they vote against their own deal because it would lead to a second ref (surely then quickly leading to a GE), or would they still vote for it despite the second ref. Interesting to ponder that.
fr336 wrote: » Sky News saying that one amendment put in front of house this week could be for a permanent customs union for all of UK. Which the DUP could back. And Boris would be screwed.
devnull wrote: » Here's the British press reaction Mail Express
LeinsterDub wrote: » So not a picture of Boris in a ditch then, no ? Quelle surprise
devnull wrote: » His argument will be it's not from him.
Letwin_Larry wrote: » i just got off the phone with my sis who has been in London since the 1970s. her husband is a cockney (Essex really) LEAVER. dislikes us Paddies (even though he's married to one???!!) her kids work in the City and are REMAINERS. she was close to tears. said the family is torn apart. arguments every night. not a pretty picture.
devnull wrote: » Lots of families tore apart, my family is mixture of Irish and English and I've discussed the issues in my family on here before, but there are arguments on a regular basis here as well and I actively try and steer any conversation away from Brexit as it will never, ever work out well. There's a real generation divide when it comes to Brexit.
liamtech wrote: » Is there not a real clear and present danger of Loyalist violence in the north because of this deal? Assuming it gets through which - i wont even callhttps://twitter.com/JamieBrysonCPNI/status/1185666820734357505?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweethttps://twitter.com/JamieBrysonCPNI/status/1185663135161733120?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweethttps://news.sky.com/story/an-awful-betrayal-why-the-dup-rejects-the-pms-new-brexit-deal-11839001 Like i am saying this in all sincerity - this has a historical precedent - Regardless of what we think of Jamie Bryson and his ilk, and regardless of what we generally think of the opinions espoused by Loyalism - Right wing loyalism brought down Sunningdale and the Anglo Irish agreement in the 80s - it amplified the troubles to a great extent - and as Bonnie Greer said the GFA was almost a truce - a cease fire - Is there a real possibility that if this goes through - we see that cease fire end? and is not the only rational way to avoid that - to somehow stop Brexit to return to the status quo?
On that topic Stephanie Bolzen who is a german reporter based in London, who i find very good, was on sky yesterday saying she didnt think it would be plain sailing for the scots to get eu membership in the event of independence. Not sure of why, but was intetested to hear her opinion all the same.
trellheim wrote: » Its because they want to scare off Catalonia and Basque regions from secession.
Imreoir2 wrote: » The antics of Bryson and his mates over the last few years suggest that they could not organise a bouncy castle, nevermind a serious protest movement. The last serious attempt at a protest by loyalism resulted in an expencive caravan that was empty most of the time. Time will tell if further impoverishment is a cause that will motivate the people to come out and support these headbangers, but I somehow doubt it.
Navanboyo wrote: » Sorry if this has been asked before but I thought i seen something around the date of the actual court decision that specifically said that Boris had to send a letter and I thought it also said he could not do anything in addition to frustrate that. I think that was because the idea of a second letter was being floated at the time. If this was the case, is there not a legal case now that he has to answer before the courts? Like i said i am not really sure about this and am probably wrong. Thanks in advance.
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