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Brexit discussion thread XI (Please read OP before posting)

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This is the eleventh incarnation of our Brexit discussion thread,

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Harry Palmr

What time are the votes due to be taken?

sjb25

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Is that a bible in Sammy's hand?

Ian paisley autobiography:)

Itssoeasy

Oh dear.

Akrasia

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

If this deal passes today, will Ireland after the transition period, be able to export/import via the UK land bridge?

There will be a transition period if a deal is passed where nothing much changes

Itssoeasy

A minority party ? Sinn Fein aren’t a minority party in NI in fairness.

Tell me how

Itssoeasy wrote: »

The DUP and conservatives love affair is certainly over.

A Tony Connelly tweet this morning contained the words 'How the DUP were ditched'.

Very strong words for someone who influences a lot of opinions on what has gone on in Brexit.

sjb25

Sammy says this deal will lead to a United Ireland

Gods Gift

correct horse battery staple wrote: »

Is Sammy drunk? his face is red, speech slurred, sentences clipped

Heart attack imminent.

Tell me how

DUP still not declaring their position on the Letwyn amendment.

Are they suggesting they are waiting to be convinced (bribed) by Johnson?

Itssoeasy

That sounded like the DUP are considering voting for the Oliver Letwin amendment. Or at least Sammy Wilson didn't rule it out.

Strazdas

sjb25 wrote: »

Sammy says this deal will lead to a United Ireland

Brexit will : I suspect it's already game over for NI

Joe_ Public

All these tory mps who insist "the people" will be furious at brexit being delayed again, why dont they just step outside the house for a second and ask any of the 100s of thousands gathered what they think?

Cosmo Kramer

Sammy making about the most sense I've ever heard him make there - saying the deal is a big step closer to a United Ireland.

What maybe hasn't dawned on him yet is what a major role he and his party have had in making this happen.

The biggest irony of all this for me is that it is during a period in which NI unionists have had the biggest influence ever in the workings of the UK government that a United Ireland has taken its biggest step to becoming a reality.

Sammy might get an opportunity to share his views from within the Dail chamber some day if he's lucky.

PropJoe10

Whatever you say about Sammy, he's not wrong about what he said there. This is a nightmare for Unionists.

Shelga

Headshot wrote: »

Sammy Wilson again

God he's a deplorable MP who and his loyalist ilk deserve every pain they get from this deal.

They voted for Brexit they're getting their just deserts

I still believe there's still some hope of a 2nd referendum on Brexit but if this deal does go ahead It will fill me with joy seeing the DUP getting what they deserve. It will be a thing of beauty.

Agree 100%. Sammy Wilson is unbearable to listen to, absolutely unbearable. Hypocrisy and horribly inflated ego prominent in every syllable he utters.

I would have the tiniest amount of respect for the DUP if they held their hands up and admitted that campaigning for Brexit was a mistake. Will never ever happen, they have no humility whatsoever. I can’t respect people like that.

There is now no denying the fact that the current UK government cares not a jot about maintaining the union with them in it, they do indeed deserve to have that humiliating fact made clear as day now.

The high horse brigade

PropJoe10 wrote: »

Whatever you say about Sammy, he's not wrong about what he said there. This is a nightmare for Unionists.

It's nothing more than they deserve

Strazdas

PropJoe10 wrote: »

Whatever you say about Sammy, he's not wrong about what he said there. This is a nightmare for Unionists.

'The deal' isn't necessarily the problem - the last two years or so have been disastrous for NI unionism....it's evident the English Brexiteers don't care a jot about them

[Deleted User]

Harry Palmr wrote: »

How strangely comforting to hear Theresa May's voice!

For me, May will go down as someone who tried hard in impossible circumstances. I don't dislike her at all.

ambro25

AllForIt wrote: »

This point is made in the British media on a daily basis multiple times per day.

"Getting Brexit done" is obviously meant in the sense of the UK no longer being a member of the EU by the end of the month (which would be the case if the deal passes today which I think and hope it will) and puts to bed any possibility of Brexit not happening at all.

Maybe a point already (long) made, and probably very redundant to make it this late in the current Brexit episode, but I very strongly suspect that "get Brexit done" is a Cummings creation, exactly like "get back control" was in 2016.

(Absurdly-) reductionist, vote-winning catchy slogans are his thing.

listermint

[Deleted User] wrote: »

For me, May will go down as someone who tried hard in impossible circumstances. I don't dislike her at all.

Very unlikeable character. Made up her own personal red lines ruined the last three years.

Hard not to dislike her.

4068ac1elhodqr

Strazdas wrote: »

Brexit will : I suspect it's already game over for NI

Indie Scot will speed it up dramatically, and be more persuasive than just brexit alone. Odds and recent Polls show that it'll also pass assuming some sort of brexit still occurs.

Joe_ Public

[Deleted User] wrote: »

For me, May will go down as someone who tried hard in impossible circumstances. I don't dislike her at all.

I wouldn't condemn her for brexit, she made a mess of it but inherited bad position.

Grenfell, windrush, eu citizens rights among other calamities however - that will be her toxic legacy. History will judge harshly i believe.

GM228

Hummm

https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1185540378952372224?s=19

I was under the impression it was very likely to pass.

[Deleted User]

listermint wrote: »

Very unlikeable character. Made up her own personal red lines ruined the last three years.

Hard not to dislike her.

Her red lines were the only way the UK could benefit from this shltshow.. In my opinion. I am far from the most knowledgeable here.

tanko

Are they voting on the Letwin Amendment first?

liamtech

tanko wrote: »

Are they voting on the Letwin Amendment first?

apparently - and then if letwin goes through - no BoJo meaningful vote - and then i think there is a vote confirming that No Deal is still unacceptable

so maybe 2-4 votes

swampgas

I wonder if "the undemocratic backstop" was one of his (Cummings) too? Because it opened the door to the current deal, where the backstop was modified to introduce some consent from NI, thus making it "the democratic backstop", and transformed into an acceptable component of the exit process.

ambro25

listermint wrote: »

Very unlikeable character. Made up her own personal red lines ruined the last three years.

Hard not to dislike her.

She made the UK's "hostile environment" policy hers, and hers alone when she was HomeSec.

A nasty, vindictive, xenophobic politician who successfully underwent a complete ablation of empathy, and who thoroughly deserves every last drop of Karma coming down her way over the years to come.

c.p.w.g.w

BBC, talking to some members of the public. "I want Brexit, to create more manufacturing jobs, create more employment"

Joe_ Public

May had terrible advice. Those 2 chancers who ensured she lost the majority in 2017. That spoofer Nick Timothy still gets traction writing in telegraph, usually ad hominem unresearched attacks on corbyn and Labour.