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N22 - Macroom to Ballyvourney (Macroom Bypass) [open to traffic]

holdfast

Anyone on the meeting from last friday in macroom on the bypass.I am one of those long suffering driver on that road to cork

Edit 23/10/2019

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marno21

FishOnABike wrote: »

A compromise between cost/space and safety. Shorter off + on ramps, needing greater deceleration / acceleration when leaving / joining the main line and tighter curves on ramps + roundabouts.

This. The main motivation behind this is the lower volumes along the route, which don’t need high spec junctions. Lower mainline speeds are a factor too

hans aus dtschl

marno21 wrote: »

To be honest, the main obstacle to the sustainable projects at the minute is NIMBYs. They've scuppered the Metrolink plan, and I stopped following BusConnects as the level of discourse had gone below what is acceptable for anyone with reasonable patience.

On a side note, it's now 5 months since the CMATS draft was published and we've heard nothing. And that's aside from the downright pathetic timelines in it.

Macroom-Ovens is becoming a major issue. There are lengthy delays along the route in the mornings and the evenings are becoming a joke at the EMC exit all the way past Srelane Cross. There was a major crash at the EMC exit on Monday evening and these will become more frequent.

I think that Metrolink and BusConnects won't happen in my lifetime.

Actually, I have heard something on CMATS, direct from the NTA. They've explicitly said that they have done absolutely nothing whatsoever on CMATS.

Hopefully Macroom-Ovens will be such an obvious issue that it will be funded sooner rather than later.

FishOnABike

Hibernicis wrote: »

Great news.

From TII website......

what is a "compact" grade separated junction ?

A compromise between cost/space and safety. Shorter off + on ramps, needing greater deceleration / acceleration when leaving / joining the main line and tighter curves on ramps + roundabouts.

marno21

hans aus dtschl wrote: »

Agreed on all points.

It's just depressing to see government bodies harp on about DMURS and then do the exact opposite, ploughing most of the funding and effort into roads. Parity of priority is even a long way off. There's zero chance of us meeting climate targets while we're investing in the opposite.

Regardless, I'll be glad of this scheme, and the Macroom-Ovens section can't come soon enough either.

To be honest, the main obstacle to the sustainable projects at the minute is NIMBYs. They've scuppered the Metrolink plan, and I stopped following BusConnects as the level of discourse had gone below what is acceptable for anyone with reasonable patience.

On a side note, it's now 5 months since the CMATS draft was published and we've heard nothing. And that's aside from the downright pathetic timelines in it.

Macroom-Ovens is becoming a major issue. There are lengthy delays along the route in the mornings and the evenings are becoming a joke at the EMC exit all the way past Srelane Cross. There was a major crash at the EMC exit on Monday evening and these will become more frequent.

pawdee

KOR101 wrote: »

Disappointing...

Once construction work starts, it is expected it will take three-and-a-half years to complete.

Yes very disappointing! How can it possibly take that long? Everyone know these roads come in a big roll like a carpet, with all bridges, underpasses, drainage, signage, retaining walls, fencing, lighting, surfacing and road markings complete. They just roll it out along the route and that's it. I'd have thought it could be done in a morning.

hans aus dtschl

marno21 wrote: »

There's €200m for BusConnects, and funding for greenways. I will agree that it's not enough, but it won't be spent if people keep objecting to planned measures.

Agreed on all points.

It's just depressing to see government bodies harp on about DMURS and then do the exact opposite, ploughing most of the funding and effort into roads. Parity of priority is even a long way off. There's zero chance of us meeting climate targets while we're investing in the opposite.

Regardless, I'll be glad of this scheme, and the Macroom-Ovens section can't come soon enough either.

KOR101

Kevwoody wrote: »

There's always one!

Previously it was said 3 years and before that there was speculation on here about 2.5 years.

Cork Trucker

https://twitter.com/creedcnw/status/1184587331996659712?s=21

marno21

hans aus dtschl wrote: »

I'm delighted with this.
It'll make a big difference for me personally, and it'll make a big difference for the region also.

At the same time there's a bit of an elephant in the room, in terms of €500m for roads and "not enough money" for most of the sustainable transport initiatives in and around the city. Just saying...

There's €200m for BusConnects, and funding for greenways. I will agree that it's not enough, but it won't be spent if people keep objecting to planned measures.

marno21

dmcsweeney wrote: »

Any idea as to where the first section will terminate? Carrigaphooca? Or to the Milstreet rd?

Presumably Carrigaphooca. There would be havoc if you sent all that traffic down the Millstreet Road.

marno21

Cork Trucker wrote: »

In realation tot he Macroom to Ovens stretch of road, does anyone know what they are doing around the Curahaly/Srelane area's with the road? looks like it is being widened or something, off the top of my head i think it's connected tot he side road linking to Aherla.

That's just beside Srelane Cross, they are relaying Casey's Road and widening the junction with the N22. That road is prone to flooding so they are also doing drainage works. I'm not sure how far back the work goes from the N22 but beside the N22 they have a lot done, the junction is much wider now.

There have been no works done on the N22 mainline (yet).

marno21

Also, detailed image of the route for anyone interested

Cork Trucker

In relation to the Macroom to Ovens stretch of road, does anyone know what they are doing around the Curahaly/Srelane area's with the road? looks like it is being widened or something, off the top of my head i think it's connected to the side road linking to Aherla.

hans aus dtschl

I'm delighted with this.
It'll make a big difference for me personally, and it'll make a big difference for the region also.

At the same time there's a bit of an elephant in the room, in terms of €500m for roads and "not enough money" for most of the sustainable transport initiatives in and around the city. Just saying...

marno21

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

Where is the tie in to existing roads east of Macroom. Did I hear correctly those bad bends going into Macroom are not in the scheme?

The tie in is roughly half way between Circle K and the first dodgy bridge, at Coolcower. The bad bends and 2 dodgy bridges are not part of the scheme, they’re part of the Macroom-Ovens scheme

AugustusMinimus

Where is the tie in to existing roads east of Macroom. Did I hear correctly those bad bends going into Macroom are not in the scheme?

marno21

KOR101 wrote: »

Disappointing...

Once construction work starts, it is expected it will take three-and-a-half years to complete.

We’ve always known that in fairness

The terrain around Ballyvourney and ground conditions in the area are far from ideal. It’s not a straightforward scheme

dmcsweeney

Any idea as to where the first section will terminate? Carrigaphooca? Or to the Milstreet rd?

Kevwoody

KOR101 wrote:

Disappointing...

There's always one!

Cork Trucker

Just need to keep the ball rolling now with the outstanding road projects in Cork. This is very welcome news, if the project breaks ground before the next election Michael Creed is a banker to get back in

aisling86

As a local resident & daily commuter to cork, I'm absolutely delighted to read this.

"But it is understood that the Macroom bypass section will be built and opened before the western section is completed."

KOR101

Disappointing...

Once construction work starts, it is expected it will take three-and-a-half years to complete.

rounders

Full article here

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/macroom-bypass-gets-go-ahead-in-280m-upgrade-of-n22-957725.html

Aontachtoir

Apogee wrote: »

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This is really fab news. So that's 500m euro in nearly 50 km of new roads announced in one week. Sorely needed for Cork after the Dunkettle and M28 setbacks. Can't wait to eventually drive through Macroom for the last time.

imangry29

marno21 wrote: »

Thanks Apogee. Great day for the region. There was a lot going on at the western tie in today, clearly finishing up advance works.

Bring on the diggers.

It’s great, a loooong time coming. The new pylons for the power line diversion at the western end growing upwards. With a good chunk of advance works out of the way, hopefully the heavy works will become visible within a short time. Examiner article talking about Macroom bypass opening ahead of the western section, would be great if true!

Hibernicis

Great news.

From TII website......

The scheme includes 1 roundabout and 3 compact grade separated junctions.

what is a "compact" grade separated junction ?

marno21

Thanks Apogee. Great day for the region. There was a lot going on at the western tie in today, clearly finishing up advance works.

Bring on the diggers.

corks finest

holdfast wrote:

Anyone on the meeting from last friday in macroom on the bypass.I am one of those long suffering driver on that road to cork

Yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

imangry29

Woohoo!!! Thankfully it was all just a staggering of announcements. Michael Creed has a video up on FB tonight with Cabinet memo in hand and Brendan Griffin has a post photographed beside a road sign on the N22, both confirming the go ahead. Will Shane, Leo and crew be out behind the green podiums again tomorrow? For entirely pedantic reasons, would love to know why the announcements (N5 and N22) came so differently and yet so close together.

Apogee

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