A Shropshire Lad wrote: » Is that enough to pass it ?
Gintonious wrote: » So, can someone clear this up for me. If this deal goes through, does the rest of the UK still leave the SM and CU? So in essence they get their hard Brexit at the expense of NI?
devnull wrote: » Won't be a deal tonight as unable to reach agreement. Makes you think that it could be about attributing blame by going right to the wire and saying that they cannot get a deal because of the EU.
Infini wrote: » Brown Envelope 2: Return of the backhander. I mean seriously bribing the DUP worked so well the last time didn't it but wait a sec they didnt actually GET the money last time tho right? :P
Imreoir2 wrote: » If this deal goes through there would be a transition period during which nothing changes, with a swift election and after that who knows. It would be for whatever government is elected to decide if they want GB to leave the SM and CU. If they do go for a hard Brexit for GB, then it will not be at NI's expence, or at least not as much of an expence as NI being included in that hard Brexit would have been.
threeball wrote: » What's to stop the UK using this hard won deal to avoid an Irish border as a bargaining chip in future trade agreements. If they aren't getting what they want they'll threaten to place a border on the island again just to strongarm the opposition like they always do. Right now it gets them out of Europe but they could renege on the deal as technically NI is still their territory.
Strazdas wrote: » They could definitely do that but there would be consequences for them (severe reputational damage and the EU hitting back in different ways).
KildareP wrote: » Nothing. Their word is worth nothing. Meaningless. I expect ERG et al, should they choose to vote for any deal, will do so purely on the basis they can just unravel the bits they don't like after the fact.
Varta wrote: » The thing that would stop them is the likelihood that the EU would crush them in more ways than they can imagine.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » If the UK goes down that road, the EU will tariff the crap out of them.
joe_99 wrote: » US Congress won't pass trade either in that scenario
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » Remainers trying to use a deal for NI to their own ends.https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1184530380004691969 Before it was the Brexiteers trying to screw the island up, now it's desperate remainers.
However, they cautioned that the DUP would probably need to be onboard for them to support any agreement and promised to examine every “tedious detail” of the legal texts to ensure the prime minister was keeping to his word on leaving the customs union.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » No. You watching Philip Hammond too?
A Dub in Glasgo wrote: » Isn't he just highlighting the legal situation
Itssoeasy wrote: » What has the former chancellor(is it chancellor or AG he was) said now ? I know the speaker of the US House of Representatives and several congressmen have said they won't if the GFA is messed with.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » Chancellor. He said that Trump doesn't have any power over trade deals - it's down to Congress. Didn't mention GFA but spoke about chlorinated chicken and beef hormones. Good interview with Murnaghan on Sky.
Itssoeasy wrote: » Okay but that's hardly breaking news that trade deals are what congress do. Btw, it was Dominic grieve I was thinking about as a former AG. I think him and Phillip Hammond look alive kind of.
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » Well yeah and nay. It's simple to just pass accompanying legislation with the WA to deal with that issue. They just want to make it awkward as possible.