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Second Captains

ballsymchugh

Thought I'd update the OP with links and stuff for anyone who stumbles across this.

The former Off the Ball hosts have partnered with The Irish Times to do a series of weekly podcasts. They go online each Tuesday and cover a variety of sports, with a number of contributors including Sid Lowe, Richie Sadlier, Gerry Thornley and Shane Horgan.

They can be found:
On The Irish Times' site: http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/second-captains
On Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/secondcaptains-it-com
On iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/ie/podcast/second-captains-irish-times/id647893016?mt=2

Or if you prefer not to use iTunes for your podcasts, use this link in whatever app you use (Thanks to youcancallmeal): http://feeds.feedburner.com/secondcaptainsitcom

And here are their Twitter and Facebook accounts.

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wnolan1992

so they're almost finished their gardening leave...

where will they end up?

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jones

"I wouldn't necessarily agree with anything Ken Early says"

Hotblack Desiato

"He thinks I'm a twat, basically"

[Deleted User]

jones wrote: »

"I wouldn't necessarily agree with anything Ken Early says"

You've picked up on the reference. Fair play to ya (said in John delaney's voice)

tomwaits48

Really enjoyed Monday’s pod because I think Ken was either drunk or hungover and on a massive rant.

terrydel

Still Ill wrote: »

Who got to decide if the 'N' word was racist? Who got to decide if blackface is racist?

Not white people anyway.
The person on the receiving end should be the person who makes the call.

Beersmith

terrydel wrote: »

Not white people anyway.
The person on the receiving end should be the person who makes the call.

Any job I've been in then the respect policies refer to the fact the offended party doesn't have to be the person that a comment was aimed at. It is standard.

terrydel

Beersmith wrote: »

Any job I've been in then the respect policies refer to the fact the offended party doesn't have to be the person that a comment was aimed at. It is standard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63M34s8afbo

I personally dont take my moral compass from the corporate world.
If the remark is aimed at a specific person in a specific context, defined by the two people involved, then they set the rules for me.

Beersmith

terrydel wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63M34s8afbo

I personally dont take my moral compass from the corporate world.
If the remark is aimed at a specific person in a specific context, defined by the two people involved, then they set the rules for me.

Im not saying anyone should take their moral compass from then but it is standard with companies. Man city being one such company

Cienciano

15 minutes about how much Denmark hate us was brilliant. We're like a cockroach to then. I hope we beat them with a shít display like the Georgia game and get a double deflection that goes between Schmeichels legs

Arghus

tomwaits48 wrote: »

Really enjoyed Monday’s pod because I think Ken was either drunk or hungover and on a massive rant.

He seemed ranty enough alright, he was so narky about Mick's comment to a journalist, would not stop mentioning it.

Though I think he went OTT on the Aaron Connolly talk. I get it, he thinks he should play, but Ken can sometimes just keep talking and talking about one subject if it takes his fancy.

I thought David Sneyd on Friday was a good foil for him.

EltonJohn69

it is good to hear Ken passionate about football again

humberklog

The irish gate crashing Denmark's BBQ was a very funny analogy.

lawred2

humberklog wrote: »

The irish gate crashing Denmark's BBQ was a very funny analogy.

"You goin late!?"

Arghus

Ken walking into the door was the travel tale we were all waiting for.

US Murph has been boring the arse off me now for a few years, so when I heard him today going on about the fcking 49er's again I thought, I might have to skip this.

But, I'm glad I didn't because that conversation about the fate of Sports Illustrated was pretty good. Fairly certain Eoin was a mid-century American sports reporter in a previous life - anything to do with quality sports writing and he really gets passionate, which is always interesting. And I shared the sadness about the end of an era.

Beersmith

I think the murph SI was abit much, that sort of media has been dead a long time.

Ken into a door was great, especially the description of the gasping laughter still going on as he sat and ate his meal outside.

Love that he talks about something very culturally important but it ends with him doing something hilarious. Bill Bryson like!

We need a Ken travel pod.

I know it was a personal holiday but we really missed kens travel stories from Australia!

Cienciano

Think I would have turned around and went home hungry

[Deleted User]

I had to laugh out loud when, just before interviewing David Epstein, Eoin was giving an update on upcoming pods and dropped in that Ken had landed in Geneva and "has just tweeted about two wasps eating a slice of ham"

Trent Houseboat

Cienciano wrote: »

Think I would have turned around and went home hungry

I had actually assumed that's what he had done until he mentioned people laughing at him while he bought and waited for his food. Life must be difficult for a clumsy diabetic.

With regard to US Murph's slot, there are few things in the world sports journos like talking about more that the importance of sports journalism. He laid it on pretty thick and syrupy but superlatives are a mainstay of the American broadcaster.

Robert McGrath

Anyone notice the bit in the interview about the 2 hour marathon when Eoin referred to “this generation of runners” meaning the things on your feet made by Nike and his American guest’s answer made it clear he meant “this generation of runners” as the people running marathons.

Two countries separated by the same language ...

lawred2

Eoin 'irrational positivity' Reddan on again

Shane Horgan moments after Eoin's opening spiel straight up says it's probably because he's too close to the current players.

Yeah no ****

Cienciano

lawred2 wrote: »

Eoin 'irrational positivity' Reddan on again

Shane Horgan moments after Eoin's opening spiel straight up says it's probably because he's too close to the current players.

Yeah no ****

I find myself skipping Shane Horgan at this stage. I prefer Matt Williams. Shane just doesn't stop talking

dastardly00

I don't know how the lads didn't burst out laughing when Reddan said 'immortality' at the start of the conversation

Arghus

Eoin Reddan is a dose.

boccy23

Murph went full fan mode in his rant about the Galway County Board Chairman.

Thought he left Joe out on a limb in a really awkward position.

Raisins

boccy23 wrote: »

Murph went full fan mode in his rant about the Galway County Board Chairman.

Thought he left Joe out on a limb in a really awkward position.

Not really. Joe set up that interview to talk about the county board. It was obvious Murph was just saying what he knew joe couldn’t say.

Cienciano

Arghus wrote: »

Eoin Reddan is a dose.

I also had to skip Jamie Heaslip. I think it's just Leinster Rugby players are horrible to listen to. They just sound like they wouldn't be out of place in an office meeting doing a powerpoint presentation that's just pie charts of monthly quotas or something. I don't know what it is, think it's the buzzwords they use or something.

Brock Turnpike

Cienciano wrote: »

I also had to skip Jamie Heaslip. I think it's just Leinster Rugby players are horrible to listen to. They just sound like they wouldn't be out of place in an office meeting doing a powerpoint presentation that's just pie charts of monthly quotas or something. I don't know what it is, think it's the buzzwords they use or something.

They are awful for the corporate speak, but I did actually enjoy the Heaslip interview. The lads asked some interesting questions of him, rather than just blowing smoke up posterior. I've taken some good learnings from the interview.

Say Your Number

I'd love to hear what Canning has to say off the record about the situation.

NeonWolf

Irish rugby pundits and ex player’s talk some amount of ****e. Moreso than any other nation to my ear anyway. Sycophantic nonsense , corporate jargon and cliched intangibles such as passion and spirit.

No robust analysis of rugby playing at all. nothing technical about how either team will win.

CatFromHue

They do exist but like other sports there's a fair few who don't, or can't, say much of note.

Andy Dunne and ROG are very good.
Murray Kinsella loves getting technical, he just loves breaking down a play.
Shane Horgan, Gordon D'arcy, and Shane Jennings are good from the bits i've seen or heard from them.

There's a fair few who I just pay no attention to. Great players and all but it's a different story being on TV or radio and having to talk about the game.