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Ireland Team Talk XI: Team of nervoUS MOD warning Post 1

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prawnsambo

ionadnapokot wrote: »

Bottom middle on my list
& With Gardner and Gaüzère it’s not an ideal combination

We’ve managed to piss all three of them off numerous times over the past and recent matches

Ah, Nigel still feels guilty about that match in 2013 that never happened.

ionadnapóca

kuang1 wrote: »

Yeah I agree. Not the best team of officiates based on our history with them all.

Still. Swings and roundabouts?

Probably. We have pissed most refs off.

I must say I find Sexton a particular culprit in annoying refs.
I saw him ball Gardner out of it behind the posts in Cardiff. Disgrace.
He wasn’t even the captain. Just shut up

Really hope Ireland ban him from uttering one word to the officials.

ionadnapóca

prawnsambo wrote: »

Ah, Nigel still feels guilty about that match in 2013 that never happened.

And 2012 I hope

prawnsambo

ionadnapokot wrote: »

And 2012 I hope

Well he specifically mentioned that one in an interview and admitted that he might have been wrong to penalise Jack McGrath.

Neil3030

Nige averaged 13 penalties in matches this RWC which must be the lowest. We do not, and I cannot stress this enough, want an open flowing game against the ABs.

But given he likes to be centre stage of an epic comeback spectacle, we should let them get 40 points ahead, get Johnny sent off and switch Larmour to tighthead.

Former Former

I think Owens has struggled to keep up with the changing nature of the laws tbh.

However, we can't complain given how often our players see him in Pro14 and Europe. We know exactly what we're getting and need to prepare accordingly.

And keep POM and Sexton as far away from him as possible.

prawnsambo

Former Former wrote: »

I think Owens has struggled to keep up with the changing nature of the laws tbh.

However, we can't complain given how often our players see him in Pro14 and Europe. We know exactly what we're getting and need to prepare accordingly.

And keep POM and Sexton as far away from him as possible.

We need to fly Jack McGrath out immediately to follow Nige around everywhere, looking mournfully at him. That should work.

Former Former

prawnsambo wrote: »

Well he specifically mentioned that one in an interview and admitted that he might have been wrong to penalise Jack McGrath.

Did this ever actually happen? I don't believe it did

pc7

Former Former wrote: »

However, we can't complain given how often our players see him in Pro14 and Europe. We know exactly what we're getting and need to prepare accordingly.

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100% this, they know what to expect and need to just play the ref as much as possible.

Lads I'm still feeling a bit positive we can do this, wtf is wrong with me

I'll be hiding behind the sofa come Saturday morning!

prawnsambo

Former Former wrote: »

Did this ever actually happen? I don't believe it did

Well I remember actually hearing it in a radio interview. Might have been OTB, as that would be the one I'd listen to the most.

aloooof

This is worth a watch a few 100 times this week:

https://twitter.com/SecondCaptains/status/1063759211711078401/video/1

kingofthekong

ionadnapokot wrote: »

Probably. We have pissed most refs off.

I must say I find Sexton a particular culprit in annoying refs.
I saw him ball Gardner out of it behind the posts in Cardiff. Disgrace.
He wasn’t even the captain. Just shut up

Really hope Ireland ban him from uttering one word to the officials.

I think Sexton is a great captain....Rory Best sometimes is too quiet

Ireland got murdered by gardner in Cardiff and Best was silent, we also got murdered by gardener against Japan and Best was quiet .....Best needed to call Gardner out every time he missed a japanese offside, in the side ruck entry and slowing down the ball and he didnt..

Sexton wouldve been all over gardner if he was captain fo that game and rightly so

prawnsambo

In other news, apparently Bundee Aki is staying and training with the team for this week anyway.

pc7

prawnsambo wrote: »

In other news, apparently Bundee Aki is staying and training with the team for this week anyway.

Do you think they will appeal ban?

prawnsambo

pc7 wrote: »

Do you think they will appeal ban?

They say they're waiting for the written judgment. So I guess if that provides some grounds, they will. But I doubt it.

Bridge93

I thought if you were banned you were not permitted to take part in anything rugby based with the team? That's what 2fm were saying. Unless he's doing some non playing role in the sessions?

salmocab

prawnsambo wrote: »

In other news, apparently Bundee Aki is staying and training with the team for this week anyway.

In fairness as unlikely as it is it would be harsh for him to be sitting at home when Ireland won the WC. It’s not like he has to rehab

Podge_irl

Not a huge amount to do with fairness I imagine - they need the numbers for training.

prawnsambo

Bridge93 wrote: »

I thought if you were banned you were not permitted to take part in anything rugby based with the team? That's what 2fm were saying. Unless he's doing some non playing role in the sessions?

Well it's what Murray Kinsella is reporting from the team presser.

Podge_irl

I've never heard anything about being banned from training before and don't believe it is true.

FrancieBrady

prawnsambo wrote: »

Well it's what Murray Kinsella is reporting from the team presser.

I had thought that was the 'appeal' he had been through.

What is the history with bans being overturned/reduced on appeal? Anyone know.

prawnsambo

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I had thought that was the 'appeal' he had been through.

What is the history with bans being overturned/reduced on appeal? Anyone know.

Very seldom. Can't think when it last happened.

Former Former

Appealing is pointless IMO. He already got the minimum possible ban.

They'd have to overturn both the ref and the initial disciplinary decision and say it wasn't worthy of a red. Never going to happen.

Just move on and refocus.

sydthebeat

prawnsambo wrote: »

Very seldom. Can't think when it last happened.

Ross Ford and Jonny Gray

https://www.espn.co.uk/rugby/story/_/id/13906730/scotland-duo-ross-ford-jonny-gray-ban-overturned

ionadnapóca

kingofthekong wrote: »

I think Sexton is a great captain....Rory Best sometimes is too quiet

Ireland got murdered by gardner in Cardiff and Best was silent, we also got murdered by gardener against Japan and Best was quiet .....Best needed to call Gardner out every time he missed a japanese offside, in the side ruck entry and slowing down the ball and he didnt..

Sexton wouldve been all over gardner if he was captain fo that game and rightly so

Sexton is the leader
Best is the captain. For manys a reason. 1 of which is to keep Sexton away from Refs.

i dont think Best is a good communicator with refs either.

bilston

kingofthekong wrote: »

I think Sexton is a great captain....Rory Best sometimes is too quiet

Ireland got murdered by gardner in Cardiff and Best was silent, we also got murdered by gardener against Japan and Best was quiet .....Best needed to call Gardner out every time he missed a japanese offside, in the side ruck entry and slowing down the ball and he didnt..

Sexton wouldve been all over gardner if he was captain fo that game and rightly so

Best is excellent with referees.

Sexton generally isn't.

Portsalon

salmocab wrote: »

In fairness as unlikely as it is it would be harsh for him to be sitting at home when Ireland won the WC.

He'll be in his eighties when that happens - plus he'll probably be back home in New Zealand.

ionadnapóca

bilston wrote: »

Best is excellent with referees.

Sexton generally isn't.

i feel Best should speak up sooner when opposition are killing the ball
he lets the refs ref. they like that!
But it gives them more room for lenience.

We are so disciplined he has great grounds to push the refs a little more firmly.

blackwhite

Bridge93 wrote: »

I thought if you were banned you were not permitted to take part in anything rugby based with the team? That's what 2fm were saying. Unless he's doing some non playing role in the sessions?

That's the case for American sports - not for rugby.

Bazzo

Easterby said Aki will be staying and training with the squad regardless of the outcome of the appeal.

https://www.irishrugby.ie/video/simon-easterby/