President Donald Trump - Formal Impeachment Inquiry Announced

How is everyone enjoying the narrative pivot? Now we don’t need the whistleblower (cause they are now found to be tainted) and we don’t need quid pro quo (since we have the call).

Now it’s about the set up to accepting a call between Trump and Zelensky.

I wonder what it will be next week?

The spaghetti fauxpeachment continues…

Overheal

notobtuse wrote: »

Okay, so I see you've decided not to go with the grown-ups answer.

I’m flummoxed that is your response to the bonafide adult answer. You still don’t know how impeachment works? It’s been 3 weeks man. Google it.

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Oh, they have .. just in the more safer of spaces

Mmm… indeed

Overheal

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Man, Trump is gonna love this, totally vindicates him calling them fake news (just as this did re: the NYT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7XZmugtLv4

A project Veritas video will never vindicate (or incriminate) anyone of anything. Very telling you choke on this hogwash.

Can someone tell the Trump campaign manager that impeachment isn’t sedition nor is it the overthrow of the Republic? The founders didn’t sneak impeachment into the constitution as the mechanism for destroying the country.

https://twitter.com/parscale/status/1183779036218216448?s=21

notobtuse wrote: »

I’m surprised the usual suspects here haven’t chimed in yet with…

Oh, they have .. just in the more safer of spaces

notobtuse wrote: »

I’m surprised the usual suspects here haven’t chimed in yet with…
NOTHING TO SEE HERE... PLEASE MOVE ALONG!

Pre school isn’t finished yet. They’re still playing in the sand box.

mad muffin wrote: »

Yeah this doesn’t shock me at all. It’s really well known what’s going on, if you care to look beyond MSM and it’s satellites.

Whilst those still playing in the sand box eating the sand and yelling IMPEACH!! Will know nothing but the MSM sand they are eating.

I’m surprised the usual suspects here haven’t chimed in yet with…
NOTHING TO SEE HERE... PLEASE MOVE ALONG!

notobtuse wrote: »

Three different Democrat House committees are currently investigating the trumped up Trump charges.

New News… Project Veritas strikes again. Leaked audio of Zucker, president of CNN, directing his employees to push impeachment and that all of CNN's stories should be about moves towards impeachment. In addition, one of CNN's employees claims Zucker had a personal vendetta against Trump.

Is anyone really shocked that CNN is completely biased against Trump and journalistic integrity be damned?

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1183780647522856960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1183780647522856960&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fsamj-3930%2F2019%2F10%2F14%2Fproject-veritas-bombshell-nothing-to-see-here-just-cnns-jeff-zucker-directing-employees-to-push-impeachment%2F

Even Shiff seems now to believe there was no quid pro quo, as he recently stated "Well, first of all, there doesn't need to be a quid pro quo. But it is clear already, I think, from the text messages that this meeting that the Ukrainian president sought was being conditioned on their willingness to intervene in the U.S. election to help the president…” I guess Trumps real crime is now being an evil genius, or something. :rolleyes:

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Man, Trump is gonna love this, totally vindicates him calling them fake news (just as this did re: the NYT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7XZmugtLv4

Yeah this doesn’t shock me at all. It’s really well known what’s going on, if you care to look beyond MSM and it’s satellites.

Whilst those still playing in the sand box eating the sand and yelling IMPEACH!! Will know nothing but the MSM sand they are eating.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7XZmugtLv4

Man, Trump is gonna love this, totally vindicates him calling them fake news (just as this did re: the NYT)

mcmoustache wrote: »

Leaving aside the remainder of this spectacular gish-gallop of horse-shít, care to name a Democrat led house investigation that started based on hearsay, rumours and fake news?

Three different Democrat House committees are currently investigating the trumped up Trump charges.

New News… Project Veritas strikes again. Leaked audio of Zucker, president of CNN, directing his employees to push impeachment and that all of CNN's stories should be about moves towards impeachment. In addition, one of CNN's employees claims Zucker had a personal vendetta against Trump.

Is anyone really shocked that CNN is completely biased against Trump and journalistic integrity be damned?

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1183780647522856960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1183780647522856960&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fsamj-3930%2F2019%2F10%2F14%2Fproject-veritas-bombshell-nothing-to-see-here-just-cnns-jeff-zucker-directing-employees-to-push-impeachment%2F

Even Shiff seems now to believe there was no quid pro quo, as he recently stated "Well, first of all, there doesn't need to be a quid pro quo. But it is clear already, I think, from the text messages that this meeting that the Ukrainian president sought was being conditioned on their willingness to intervene in the U.S. election to help the president…” I guess Trumps real crime is now being an evil genius, or something. :rolleyes:

MadYaker wrote: »

You’ve no idea what you’re talking about. The purpose of any investigation is to collect evidence. Once the evidence is collected the investigation is over. Then a trial begins to decide whether or not the evidence is enough to establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. The democrats have begun the evidence collecting by launching the investigation in congress. Then it’ll go to the senate for a trial and some GOP senators will have to turn on trump if he’s to be impeached (unlikely imo) that’s where we’re at.

Okay, so I see you've decided not to go with the grown-ups answer.

notobtuse wrote: »

I believe the GOP Senate are waiting for some concrete evidence before undertaking a Senate inquiry, unlike Democrats in the House who have launched several investigations based on hearsay, rumors and fake news. If damning reports come out from Barr and Durham I think you will see the Senate push to have the DOJ do his job, first, before launching into investigations. Remember, the GOP does not have the majority of the media act as scribes so they need more substantial evidence before undertaking an investigation into real collusion, corruption and a possible coup. Because we all know the media will damn Senate Republicans if THEY launch into an investigation, and try to turn public opinion against the GOP

As Trump's personal lawyer it is his to duty to protect his client and find out the truth, if authorities are targeting his client instead of the real of purveyors of corruption.

You’ve no idea what you’re talking about. The purpose of any investigation is to collect evidence. Once the evidence is collected the investigation is over. Then a trial begins to decide whether or not the evidence is enough to establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. The democrats have begun the evidence collecting by launching the investigation in congress. Then it’ll go to the senate for a trial and some GOP senators will have to turn on trump if he’s to be impeached (unlikely imo) that’s where we’re at.

notobtuse wrote: »

I believe the GOP Senate are waiting for some concrete evidence before undertaking a Senate inquiry, unlike Democrats in the House who have launched several investigations based on hearsay, rumors and fake news. If damning reports come out from Barr and Durham I think you will see the Senate push to have the DOJ do his job, first, before launching into investigations. Remember, the GOP does not have the majority of the media act as scribes so they need more substantial evidence before undertaking an investigation into real collusion, corruption and a possible coup. Because we all know the media will damn Senate Republicans if THEY launch into an investigation, and try to turn public opinion against the GOP

As Trump's personal lawyer it is his to duty to protect his client and find out the truth, if authorities are targeting his client instead of the real of purveyors of corruption.

Leaving aside the remainder of this spectacular gish-gallop of horse-shít, care to name a Democrat led house investigation that started based on hearsay, rumours and fake news?

I wasn’t talking about Congress, the gop don’t control that. Individuals can do some digging as you have claimed though I can find no evidence of it, the Horowitz investigation was separate.

The gop control the senate which has many powers of investigation which for some reason they aren’t using to look into the Biden’s or anyone else, it doesn’t make any sense

MadYaker wrote: »

Any grown ups have an answer?

Unlikely. The top minds of the_donald haven't come up with anything for that.

What you need to understand is that these talking points aren't for grown ups. Trump and co know well that these points are nonsense but they also know that Trump's base will lap them up and repeat them without any scrutiny. It's always been like this.

MadYaker wrote: »

I still can’t get an answer from any of you as to why, in your own opinion, the republicans who control the senate have absolutely no interest in investigating any of this democrats corruption?

The Horowitz report might be interesting but Horowitz himself can’t do much with it.

Also, is nobody bothered by the fact that trump is involving his own personal lawyer in government business? Could you imagine the howling of Obama had done something like that.

I believe the GOP Senate are waiting for some concrete evidence before undertaking a Senate inquiry, unlike Democrats in the House who have launched several investigations based on hearsay, rumors and fake news. If damning reports come out from Barr and Durham I think you will see the Senate push to have the DOJ do his job, first, before launching into investigations. Remember, the GOP does not have the majority of the media act as scribes so they need more substantial evidence before undertaking an investigation into real collusion, corruption and a possible coup. Because we all know the media will damn Senate Republicans if THEY launch into an investigation, and try to turn public opinion against the GOP

As Trump's personal lawyer it is his to duty to protect his client and find out the truth, if authorities are targeting his client instead of the real of purveyors of corruption.

MadYaker wrote: »

I still can’t get an answer from any of you as to why, in your own opinion, the republicans who control the senate have absolutely no interest in investigating any of this democrats corruption?

Who do you think has triggered all these investigations into the democrats if not the republicans in congress?

The Horowitz report might be interesting but Horowitz himself can’t do much with it.

Which is why Durham-Barr are investigating and also why, most likely, Trump was keen to ask the Ukraine to do what they can their side re Biden as very little information to be had in the States I would suggest, aside from the quid-pro-quo bragging video itself that is.

Also, is nobody bothered by the fact that trump is involving his own personal lawyer in government business? Could you imagine the howling of Obama had done something like that.

Not a fan of Rudy myself but he came on board when Trump was being accused of a crime and would think it's stanard to have your own lawyer investigate such things. That he came across the Biden stuff could not have been predicted.

Sure democrats are even suggesting AG Barr should not be indulging the president in these "conspiracy theories" - they appear blind to the fact that there is a lot of evidence that crimes were committed, but then they are in good company as even Brennan is incredulous at the very fact there is an investigation at all.

Course if Hillary had won, there wouldn't be - which is of course, what they all were banking on.

Igotadose

SJW Lover wrote: »

Because the Dems are so completely and utterly inept that they are going to completely expose themselves all by themselves. Dont interrupt your enemy while it is destroying itself.

Words mean different things to Teapublicans.

Inept: 37 indictments just from the Mueller investigation. 5 convictions. This is *just* the Mueller investigation. The only rat not caught, was Trump himself, and only because Mueller provided the information to Congress for them to decide on indicting. Those investigations (into Obstruction) are still going.

We're not even talking about the impeachment investigation which as we know is just a few weeks old and so far has resulted in many subpoenas, but no indictments yet.

I do agree the democratic party took too long to start the impeachment process, but so be it, it's in play now.

Any grown ups have an answer?

MadYaker wrote: »

I still can’t get an answer from any of you as to why, in your own opinion, the republicans who control the senate have absolutely no interest in investigating any of this democrats corruption?

Because the Dems are so completely and utterly inept that they are going to completely expose themselves all by themselves. Dont interrupt your enemy while it is destroying itself.

mad muffin wrote: »

Yeah I remember the Democrats, and a Schiff proclaiming its Mueller time! Just turned out to be warm piss going down Mueller's leg as he sat there mumbling , and bumbling.

Schiff went beyond that. He claimed to have seen first hand evidence of direct collusion. No wonder Trump wants his head on a spike. Treasonous behaviour.

I still can’t get an answer from any of you as to why, in your own opinion, the republicans who control the senate have absolutely no interest in investigating any of this democrats corruption?

The Horowitz report might be interesting but Horowitz himself can’t do much with it.

Also, is nobody bothered by the fact that trump is involving his own personal lawyer in government business? Could you imagine the howling of Obama had done something like that.

Overheal wrote: »

It’s only interesting to the plum ignorant

are you equally interested in how much Republicans made in that time? Mitch is no pauper

More ad hominems from Overheal :rolleyes:

SJW Lover wrote: »

We all remember the hype around the Mueller Report though. When is that coming out? Mueller gonna destroy the Donald :pac:

The most embarrassing thing was all the celebrity readings, as if the we all just hadn't understood it, and we needed to hear Z listers reading it to see that Donald was in fact a double agent afterall.

Funny also how when Mueller was laughed at for mumbling and apparently not knowing who or what Fusion GPS was during his testimony in front of Congress, they said "How dare you, he's a 74 year old man!!" but the same folk have seemingly have no trouble whatsoever with laughing at man who's 73 :P

SJW Lover wrote: »

We all remember the hype around the Mueller Report though. When is that coming out? Mueller gonna destroy the Donald :pac:

Yeah I remember the Democrats, and a Schiff proclaiming its Mueller time! Just turned out to be warm piss going down Mueller's leg as he sat there mumbling , and bumbling.

mcmoustache wrote: »

I remember how hyped the last one was by the same crowd. It was so bigly-yuge that nobody remembers it.

We all remember the hype around the Mueller Report though. When is that coming out? Mueller gonna destroy the Donald :pac:

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprised if the Durham-Barr report isn't complete until after Christmas tbh, given they have just widened the scope and some interviews have only been announced, like Brennan for example. Apparently both are going to Italy re the Mifsud tapes also.

What about the Crowdstrike server physically sitting in Ukraine? Can we soon expect to see Barr doing some house-to-house inquiries to get to the bottom of it?

I wouldn't be surprised if the Durham-Barr report isn't complete until after Christmas tbh, given they have just widened the scope and some interviews have only been announced, like Brennan for example. Apparently both are going to Italy again re the Mifsud tapes too.

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

https://twitter.com/WayneDupreeShow/status/1183691527429726208

I remember how hyped the last one was by the same crowd. It was so bigly-yuge that nobody remembers it.