KyussB wrote: » Guys, this is why Thelonious views Eric Cartman as a racist - and if you click my post above, you see him thank it, showing he was aware of Cartman's post above. Since this is indisputable proof that EricCartman is indeed racist, and people have been taking the piss trying to reflect theaccusation back onto Thelonious - then lets hear all people disputing either, come out and acknowledge that the above bolded quote is racist?My prediction: Not a single one of them defending Cartman will - because nearly all those posters are in the habit of 'concern trolling' - i.e. only pretending to give a shit about what they are acting so 'concerned' about, purely for rhetorical effect (e.g. like expressing concern for Greta while never missing an opportunity to use 'mental illness' to dampen the credibility of what she says) - and they will prove it, by trying to slip acknowledging the above blatant racism (as they don't care, when it's 'their side' of the debate...).
KyussB wrote: » Are you in favour of ending trade of high-tech and goods with highly polluting externalities, from Communist China? No - because you're a hypocrite who supports the produce of Communism when it suits you, and who goes on about emissions from China yet doesn't want to do the one major thing that would reduce it: Eliminate our - the western world's - demand for their produce. Just like the rest of the pretend 'Anti-Communists' in the thread. EDIT: Well, actually - credit where it's due:
splinter65 wrote: » I’m not in favour of ending trade with China because unlike you I’ve got a brain and can clearly see that millions and millions of ordinary Chinese people’s whole lives hinge on us buying the **** they get paid to produce.Not buying the **** they get paid to produce will not result in the end of communism, it will just result in them being left to starve to death.But they’re only chinese humans, why should you care about them?
Eric Cartman wrote: » Its not that communism is better at producing anything or supported, its the oppressive structure, enforcement and questionable labour laws that communism always presents which reduce the price of production to such a point where these low quality pointless goods are dumped on world markets.
sk8erboii wrote: » China in its contemporary form is in no way communist. Its historical analog would be Nazi Germany. (National Socialism to State Capitalism)
China anniversary: Beijing celebrations mark 70 years of Communist rule
gozunda wrote: » The Chinese just might to beg to differ on that ...https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-49808078
Eric Cartman wrote: » its just a standard communist in name authoritarian dictatorship where the party owns the people and sell their labour to companies so the party members and their families can profit.
KyussB wrote: » So a basic TLDR: All the people spouting off against Communism, couldn't bare to think of doing without all of the cheap Communist Chinese goods - and in fact some are even now defending China as not being Communist. Fairly priceless how fast the goalposts shift and contort once you point out the hypocrisy of these posters positions.
KyussB wrote: » Well as it happens right now I'm posting through a Raspberry Pi which says 'made in the UK' on the PCB :pac: Actually I think you'll find that the deindustrialization of the west and offshoring into Communist countries, was done precisely by the free-market-fetishist financial, business and political people, who are usually the most frothing-at-the-mouth against Communism - it's almost like they feed people bullshit about Anti-Communism and being Pro-Capitalist, while simultaneously pushing a massive boom in Communist economies, and promoting moves towards Oligarchy in western nations (which is incompatible with true Capitalism)...people lap it up, too.
Eric Cartman wrote: » the pcb was assembled in the UK, the components on it are from china as is likely the power supply and the hdmi cable connecting it to a chinese monitor. the move to china was always about labour cost , they use communism to provide labour at such a cheap rate it reduces prices. If people in western countries took more of a virtue in quality products than low prices then it never would have happened. Its only thanks to capitalist desires for luxury goods that abuse free manufacturing continues. A rolls royce, bentley, range rover or bmw is assembled by well paid workers in safe factories in europe, a prius is assembled in what is little more than a sweatshop and its batteries lithium mined by children.
lleti wrote: » If Greta wants to stand up and tell governments to do things that are going to impact all our lives, she needs to accept adult criticism.
hetuzozaho wrote: » She seems to have managed all the criticism really well. Even the nasty stuff.
Ash.J.Williams wrote: » agreed
KyussB wrote: » If my quoted post is to be considered off topic (I disagree), then your own above is off topic - so take your own advice.Except: You're a hypocrite, and you label posts that way - knowing full well it's exclusively for the mods to decide that - for rhetorical effect.
Eric Cartman wrote: » ........ . A rolls royce, bentley, range rover or bmw is assembled by well paid workers in safe factories in europe, .,......
Eric Cartman wrote: » A rolls royce, bentley, range rover or bmw is assembled by well paid workers in safe factories in europe, gctest50 wrote: » Bmw is made in China
gctest50 wrote: » Bmw is made in China
Today, Jaguar Land Rover has opened its Chinese engine plant as part of its RMB10.9 billion joint venture with Chery Automobile Ltd. The state-of-the-art facility will manufacture the all-new Ingenium 2.0-litre four-cylinder petrol engine for future Chery Jaguar Land Rover vehicles Operations began at Chery Jaguar Land Rover's plant less than three years ago and since then it has manufactured more than 100,000 vehicles. It produces the Range Rover Evoque, Land Rover Discovery Sport and, exclusively for the Chinese market, the Jaguar XFL.
gozunda wrote: » gctest50 wrote: » Bmw is made in China The poster is not wrong. According to the companies blurb - BMW is headquartered in Munich and in Europe produces motor vehicles in Germany and the UK. And yes BMW also produces vehicles for specific markets in other countries - this at least partially due to trade restrictions of importing such vehicles to those counties. China is a case in point
lleti wrote: » ...Anyone who may disagree in any way are called climate change deniers and are accused of becoming angry because of a kid. It's cult-like...
jimgoose wrote: » We're "triggered", apparently, and "enraged" by the sight of a teenage girl. Go figure. I'm only surprised that "gammon", one of the more nonsensical of these Neo-Politik words that have materialised, hasn't cropped up in this context. :pac:
Tell me how wrote: » The poster is wrong. As are you.