BarryD2 wrote: » It's not how the Brexiteers may see it, it's how the voting public see it when Boris and Tories will run their election campaign. The story they can spin.
I mean the queen reads the speech prepared by her government but how likely is that any of what's in the speech has any chance of getting done ?
Itssoeasy wrote: » The state opening of Parliament today should be something... I mean the queen reads the speech prepared by her government but how likely is that any of what's in the speech has any chance of getting done ?
FrancieBrady wrote: » You cannot affect how the UK want the 'talks' to be perceived. Varadkar tried to broker a deal, as he should have done. Who cares how Brexiteers wish to see that, they are going to do what they want anyway. Those who are important will see it for what it is.
lawred2 wrote: » EU/UK talks post Brexit are going to be grim.
BarryD2 wrote: » Looks like the last few days have been a pointless diversion. Which make you wonder why Varadkar got involved in this scenario, knowing the limitations. Was it just a case of being seen to do something to help the UK? There is a reasonably clear path from the EU perspective at the moment: Boris waffles on but can't rewrite the withdrawal treaty, the HoC insists that the Benn Act be implemented, an extension is sought and given, a general election follows and possible second referendum on matters relating. While Varadkar might have felt he was being helpful, really what he's achieved is to bolster the hard Tory line that the UK was prepared to be flexible but that the EU bully boys wouldn't agree. And in doing so, bolstered their election campaign.
ancapailldorcha wrote: » I thought it was Sasanach as that's what I remember from school. Interesting point, though.
careless sherpa wrote: » It's why the term in Irish is sasamach, English out as it is a predominantly English decision. The Welsh were overlooked in the coinage of the term
No, there is a genuine desire on the part of Ireland and the EU to avoid a No Deal Brexit, because it will cost us a shedload of money and destabilise the North
trellheim wrote: » avoid blame game in a post-talks-failure-general-election usual poisonous atmosphere
Which make you wonder why Varadkar got involved in this scenario, knowing the limitations. Was it just a case of being seen to do something to help the UK?
Strazdas wrote: » Once you hear that the talks are getting bogged down in ludicrous technical detail and off the wall proposals from the British side, you'd have to fear it's all going nowhere. It sounds like the old "cake and eat it" stuff. The UK trying to get out of the backstop and replace it with a labyrinth of confusing technical mumbo jumbo. I suspect the EU are just being polite in saying 'talks are continuing and intensifying' etc. The Brexiteers haven't changed their colours at all.
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » DUP saying they want to be treated the exact same as England. Boris has to dump the DUP or there won't be a deal the EU can agree to. He'll need to find the votes somewhere else.
Beechwoodspark wrote: » If corbyn was installed as a temporary PM is there any chance he could revoke art 50 at a stroke?
Sierra Oscar wrote: » The optimism is being replaced with cynicism it seems. I think the EU negotiation team are rightly fearful that the UK Government is making concessions just to advance the Brexit talks to the next stage without any real plan as to how they can deliver on those concessions. All the talk this morning has been about how the UK Government has been unable to set out the technical details as to how they will implement their proposed customs and tariffs arrangements. Concessions are useless if they are not deliverable. It seems to me the EU is gearing up for an extension - no agreement until the technical details have been nailed down.
