RobMc59 wrote: » He appears to be remaining fairly tight lipped ... I believe there is a growing suspicion that the EU is making concessions behind closed doors
CelticRambler wrote: » I'm more inclined to think that the "Merkel leak" was yet another spectacular backfire, and the EU are putting the Johnson-Cummings machine to the test: the meeting with Varadkar, those preliminary talks immediately afterwards, now these discussions - not a peep from Downing Street. After that leak and that poster, someone in the EU sat Johnson down and said Listen Boris, you can go all out Trump if you want, but remember we hold the keys to all the Channel Ports, so get your house in order or you'll get your Battle of Britain alright, but without all the Allies that helped you win the the last one.
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » Apparently consent will now not be a rolling issue. Instead it will be a 'one off event', source retweeted by Peter Foster. 'Single market and Customs Union, in or out'. I am smelling a referendum here...
Strazdas wrote: » 7% represents a massive blow to the economy, these are recession type figures. No wonder Remainers are totally against this. It shows you how toxic and warped Brexit has become that a Govt is thinking of voluntarily inflicting this type of damage onto its economy, knowing that this will be the outcome.
A march has been held over the proposed closure of the Orb steelworks in Newport with 380 jobs at risk. ... Tata said it would have cost £50m to upgrade the Orb site to make it competitive.
Edgware wrote: » CelticRambler wrote: » I'm more inclined to think that the "Merkel leak" was yet another spectacular backfire, and the EU are putting the Johnson-Cummings machine to the test: the meeting with Varadkar, those preliminary talks immediately afterwards, now these discussions - not a peep from Downing Street. After that leak and that poster, someone in the EU sat Johnson down and said Listen Boris, you can go all out Trump if you want, but remember we hold the keys to all the Channel Ports, so get your house in order or you'll get your Battle of Britain alright, but without all the Allies that helped you win the the last one. History has shown us that we cannot trust the British, ( as the D.U.P. will learn) But we make a big mistake if we think that we can trust the French, Germans etc.
NotToScale wrote: » They're going to have to have an extension though! I mean it's entirely impossible to have a referendum setup and complete by Halloween. This should have been organised 6+ months ago. The whole thing is a complete and utter farce and it's endangering stability in the UK both economic and political as well as undermining all sorts of long term planning in the UK, EU and beyond. How anyone would ever trust the UK as a destination for investment again for a very long time is beyond me. The words "political instability" tend to frighten a lot of people off, particularly when that instability related to the regulation of things that impact business and investment. At a whim they've basically pulled the rug out from under vast numbers of business both multinational and domestic and we've someone installed in No. 10 who has said "f### business". It's looking more like Russia - a place where business can be pulled apart by political manoeuvring, rather than the great trading nation they imagine themselves to be.
Edgware wrote: » History has shown us that we cannot trust the British, ( as the D.U.P. will learn) But we make a big mistake if we think that we can trust the French, Germans etc.
threeball wrote: » 30% deeper than the last recession and they haven't even fully recovered from that one. It's like playing Russian roulette with a weapon with a magazine rather than a barrel
Capt'n Midnight wrote: » Also everyone was in recession last time except maybe Canada and Norway. This time it will be just the UK. Anything worth salvaging will be bought up and probably asset stripped by foreign investors once the £ drops enough.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » The DUP are British.
An Ciarraioch wrote: » Tony Connelly highlighting the EU reservations with the proposal - rebates wouldn't be agreed even by the end of the transition period, rules of origin would be incredibly complex, and there are also fraud concerns:https://twitter.com/tconnellyRTE/status/1183452490752286722
Strazdas wrote: » It all sounds rather messy and 'cake and eat it'. The British trying to design their own WA by cherry picking bits and pieces from all over the place. I'd hazard a guess this won't end in agreement.
An Ciarraioch wrote: » The bigger question being, why was Leo so desperate to go for this now, when he dismissed similar ideas before?
Ludo wrote: » Yawn...They are not "real" British in the eyes of the Tories and never will be. They are Irish who are part of the UK...not British.
gooch2k9 wrote: » I wonder has another EU leader ruled out any more extensions. They'd be within their rights.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » They are British nonetheless. They're entitled to their identity, especially as they are British citizens.
ancapailldorcha wrote: » I disagree. There is definitely a specific Northern Irish Unionist identity and culture. I've never met a Unionist who thinks that they are British or English. They want to stay in the Union but they know full well that they are not British.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » So what is their nationality?
griffdaddy wrote: » Northern Irish
MikeSoys wrote: » hi whats happening at the moment? i know there in the tunnel..and JR.Mogg is saying(on twitter to trust the MP)- it looks like to me whatever is agreed wont be approved by parliment anyway.. -if Jacob is saying trust Boris thats a concern right as Jacob wants a clean break? -if there is a no-deal that instantly means a hard border right?
