notobtuse wrote: » I understand CONGRESS (in this case the HOUSE) can start an impeachment inquiry for anything their little minds come up with, but the HOUSE is not one person with Pelosi being lord and master... The HOUSE is comprised of 435, or so, members.
notobtuse wrote: » Why won’t Pelosi hold a House floor vote to officially open an impeachment inquiry for this preposterous and manufactured supposed crisis? Oh, wait, I may have indirectly answered my own question... but I digress. As I recall a floor vote was held for the Clinton impeachment inquiry, and a floor vote was held for the Nixon impeachment inquiry. But no vote for Trump? Why? I can guess the real reasons why Pelosi is abusing her power… Because it would endanger Democrats in hotly contested districts having to vote for an impeachment inquiry based pretty much on nothing more than partisan grounds. Because if she held the vote she would be compelled to provide Republicans the right to also subpoena and have access to all the witnesses. And the biggest 'because' in all is she can't allow the American people see the disingenuous claims that the inquiry is based upon. Trump was right in his letter that inquiry, as it now stands, is partisan and illegitimate. I understand CONGRESS (in this case the HOUSE) can start an impeachment inquiry for anything their little minds come up with, but the HOUSE is not one person with Pelosi being lord and master... The HOUSE is comprised of 435, or so, members.
Matt Barrett wrote: » So attacking the whistle blower again? All you're doing is looking desperate. Why do you dislike the way America works? Maybe you should go back to where you came from? You seem like you hate America.
notobtuse wrote: » I understand the whistleblower’s lawyers have asked Congress for their client to submit testimony in writing instead of giving his testimony in person. I don’t believe there is any precedent for this type of thing, so it should be denied. But Shiff will probably grant the request. That way Shiff can ask the questions and his staff can help steer the written answers. If the whistleblower felt so strongly that what Trump did was so bad then have the courage to testify, keeping your identity withheld. His identity should be kept confidential but those that fed him the false information shouldn’t be shielded. Maybe the Senate should also start an investigation so Republicans can ask some questions, too. And I'm confident his identity will come out at some point by the Democrats. That way he can become the darling of the Democrats and the Left, appear at political rallies, rake in millions in donations because he is being so persecuted and fearful, go on the talk show and liberal news circuits, and write a couple of books.
notobtuse wrote: » And I'm confident his identity will come out at some point by the Democrats. That way he can become the darling of the Democrats and the Left, appear at political rallies, rake in millions in donations because he is being so persecuted and fearful, go on the talk show and liberal news circuits, and write a couple of books.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » These violent far leftists are out of control.https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1182515583599951872
Two Giuliani Associates Who Helped Him on Ukraine Charged With Campaign-Finance Violations The two men were charged with four counts, including conspiracy, falsification of records and lying to the Federal Election Commission about their political donations, which included a $325,000 donation through a limited liability company to a super PAC formed to support Mr. Trump, according to the indictment. Geoffrey Berman, the U.S. attorney in Manhattan, said Thursday the investigation was continuing. Messrs. Parnas and Fruman, both Florida businessmen who are U.S. citizens born in former Soviet republics, made a brief appearance in federal court in Virginia Thursday, dressed in T-shirts. They were arrested at Dulles International Airport on Wednesday while awaiting an international flight with one-way tickets, according to people familiar with the matter.https://www.wsj.com/articles/two-foreign-born-men-who-helped-giuliani-on-ukraine-arrested-on-campaign-finance-charges-11570714188
notobtuse wrote: » I understand the whistleblower’s lawyers have asked Congress for their client to submit testimony in writing instead of giving his testimony in person. I don’t believe there is any precedent for this type of thing, so it should be denied.
Woodsie1 wrote: » Looks like a bunch of deranged morons:pac:
mcmoustache wrote: » Look at Overheal's post again and don't forget to check the link before you click on it.
Cody montana wrote: » Everyone will be burning them in the future.
Cody montana wrote: » Looks like a slow dance flash mob. Great fun. ðŸ‘
1800_Ladladlad wrote: » This is how I envision all of the orange man bad posters on this thread.https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1182478053043257344
drunkmonkey wrote: » Igotadose wrote: » Then why are so many Democratic candidates leading Trump in the polls? Biden, Warren? Substantial leads well in advance of primaries even. I put more faith in the odds at the bookies than random polls. Trumps the bookies favourite. I won money on Trump the last time not backing him this time the odds aren't worth it. Hillary is 22/1 to win. She's not even close, Warren has overtaken Biden and if you believed Joe has no case to answer you'd back him at 7/1 as Warren hasn't a hope.
Igotadose wrote: » Then why are so many Democratic candidates leading Trump in the polls? Biden, Warren? Substantial leads well in advance of primaries even.
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”
drunkmonkey wrote: » Neutral me
drunkmonkey wrote: » Neutral me sees someone trying to do what he said and drain the swamp. Biden has a case to answer a long with a lot more, Hillary is still under investigation.
Boggles wrote: » Pelosi didn't want to go through with impeachment, it was Trump and his actions that left her with no choice. Just because the Presidents party may roll in behind him with it comes to the verdict, that doesn't mean the process of impeachment shouldn't occur. You need to stand back and try and look at it from a neutral view.
drunkmonkey wrote: » Either way Trump wins in 2020 they made a stupid mistake trying to impeach him it'll never get the backing of the Senate when it comes to judgement day. He may even be re-elected while it's all still happening. For all they say about Trump the dims can't find someone with a chance of beating him. As for Hillary are they really going to run that bitter nag again.
drunkmonkey wrote: » Either way Trump wins in 2020 they made a stupid mistake trying to impeach him it'll never get the backing of the Senate when it comes to judgement day.
Boggles wrote: » Really? I'd say there is a more than 50/50 chance that they will go ahead with Articles of Impeachment.
