Hibernicis wrote: » Whats wrong with this ?
deRanged wrote: » excellent. great to see this start.
Hibernicis wrote: » I thought the same. Was curious to understand the issue that caused the other poster such concern
Cork Trucker wrote: » At a time when world leaders are crying out about climate change etc, reopening the line was an opportunity to help ease traffic congestion on an already congested N25. I’m not anti greenway, just not at the expense of the railway line.
mordeith wrote: » We've been over this loads of times in previous posts. The railway line is not commercially viable. It simply won't happen.
marno21 wrote: » There are no comercially viable railway lines in Ireland
Cork Trucker wrote: » Mirror the Waterford greenway? Some serious drugs being smoked.
whisky_galore wrote: » Unless it's followed up with serious promotion like the Waterford one, Youghal is somewhat of an uninspired and uninspiring backwater so they have their work cut out.
Cork Trucker wrote: » Between that and some cable they want to run under the line I can’t ever see it reopening now even if they are future proofing it for quick conversion to railway. Do you know where in killeagh this plot of land is that the line used travel on that is not in Irish rail ownership?
whisky_galore wrote: » Cable for what now? The whole lot is Irish Rail's, someone chanced their arm with a land grab, I may know where that is. It'll never revert to rail once the path is in place.
Cork Trucker wrote: » Yes it sounds like a land grab. Why build it in such a way for quick conversion then?
whisky_galore wrote: » Just to placate pro rail people. Can you imagine a path being installed and then closed and not having anyone objecting?
Cork Trucker wrote: » Yes it sounds like a land grab. Why build it in such a way for quick conversion then? Link to what I’m on about belowhttps://amp.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/eirgrid-in-talks-with-cork-council-over-use-of-greenway-cable-for-france-interconnector-955711.html
Cork Trucker wrote: » Do you know where in killeagh this plot of land is that the line used travel on that is not in Irish rail ownership?
Hibernicis wrote: » Not sure what the issue is with that article. It makes perfect sense to use a single owner corridor (such as a rail track or a greenway) for a cable duct. ESAT in Denis O'Brien's time ran fibre from Cork to Dublin along the Cork-Dublin mainline by "agreement" with CIE. If an electricity interconnector has to be run from a landing point in say Youghal (or elsewhere in East Cork) to the ESB substation in Knochraha it would be crazy not to use the greenway (and then the Midleton-Cork rail alignment). It avoids negotiating with 50-100 landowners and/or digging up the N25.
hans aus dtschl wrote: » Ballyquirke. House and yard and sheds on the alignment. I've pointed this out to the "anti-greenway, pro-Youghal-railway" people many times, but the point keeps getting lost. The landowners have squatters rights on that land now it's been encroached upon for a very long time. The people who want to reopen Youghal railway should be happy to see the greenway clear the line and should IMO also go further to try and deal with the encroachment issue now, rather than leaving it fester for some time in the future. There is a further issue near Youghal itself where a driveway encroached on the line. Thankfully this one isn't a building and can be dealt with more easily.
whisky_galore wrote: » This could be have been dealt with at little cost if IE visited the line every year or second year to reassert their ownership. If they were bothered, that is.
mordeith wrote: » I actually drive an electric car so you can remove the 'you' and direct your diatribe elsewhere.
JonathonS wrote: » That is unfair and not true - at least according to the Tidy Towns adjudicators: https://www.tidytowns.ie/u_reports/2017/2017%20County%20Cork_South%20Youghal%20600.pdf Quote: "The stunning coastal location, rich history, unique buildings and elevated setting provide Youghal with an enviable range of attractions and we were delighted to see that your committee (and volunteers) with the support of the Council, local businesses and community are working hard. . . etc etc" Having said that I weep every time I pass the block of flats that overlook the strand. The people who were responsible for "designing" and building them have a lot to answer for. As for whoever gave them planning permission - what were they thinking?
Cork Trucker wrote: » Christ it makes me sick looking at this knowing the railway line isn't going to reopen
