Gbear wrote: » If you're ever curious about how fascism arose in Europe, you only have to see the rampant bootlicking that goes on in favour of the current crop of chancers in the US Executive, whose raison d'etre is lining their pockets at others expense, including the tax payers they're supposed to be representing, to the point where they're whooping and cheering at them pissing on the constitution and legal framework of the United States. It's incredibly obvious that what these people want isn't freedom, the rule of law or civil liberties, as they have a fondness of bleating about, but an authoritarian, single-party, unitary government, so long as it's "their guy" in charge.
mad muffin wrote: » “Law” Of course they’d say that. At the end of the day it doesn’t matter what they say.What matters is that Trump once again has taken the wind out of the a Democrats impeachment sail.
Boggles wrote: » That actually matters, but not in the way you would like to think. I think people have lost there absolute minds when it comes to Trump. He is fleeting, even if he wins the next election. Fleeting. But the damage he is being allowed do will last. The White House will swing to Democrats at some stage who may just like the new authoritarian smell, there will be nothing done about it, because it is the new norm, the bar hasn't been lowered, it's been fúcked out the window. So Trump fan boys, particularly American citizens need to put their glasses on and start paying attention. Obviously I have more chance of explaining that to a Raccoon then I have the majority of Trumps base, but the moderates in the GOP need to get a handle on it.
mad muffin wrote: » I see. Please enlighten us?
ELM327 wrote: » I think the answer is he decided you are wrong to vote Red/Trump.
ELM327 wrote: » His vision of a democratic free society is one where everyone has a free choice unless they disagree with the libtards
Zubeneschamali wrote: » "Gibberish" seems to be a common opinion among the law talking guys on Twitter.
mad muffin wrote: » Whistleblower had 'professional' tie to 2020 Democratic candidate Three sources said this.https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/whistleblower-had-professional-tie-to-2020-democratic-candidate Oh… okay. No wonder Schiff won’t release the IG interview either.
Overheal wrote: » Doesn’t mean anything. Could mean the whistleblower interned for Bernie Sanders in 1983
Outlaw Pete wrote: » lol. What utter garbage. What we are seeing right now in the states is the democrats thinking they can use the impeachment process and whistleblower protections as political campaign tools. We have seen FBI directors thinking that leaking information about investigations is perfectly fine to meet a political end also and we have seen members of congress thinking reading a parody account of the president's words is acceptable. These are the real chancers and chancers who have collectively been behaving despicably for over three years now with a clear objective of ousting the president from office. Democrats and their leftist allies (enabled by the mainstream media) have pearl clutched all throughout this time about alleged collusion of a presidential candidate with a foreign power, but when it becomes apparent that the accusation was false, and in fact appears to have been based on knowingly unreliable intel created, and paid for, by corrupt individuals, these same people look the other way, revealing themselves to be nothing but sanctimonious politically motivated phonies who couldn't care less about that which they pretend to and are only too happy to turn a blind eye to election meddling and corruption when it's being done by those who they have aligned themselves with. If it wasn't for double standards, they'd have no standards at all.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » lol. What utter garbage. What we are seeing right now in the states is the democrats thinking they can use the impeachment process and whistleblower protections as political campaign tools. We have seen FBI directors thinking that leaking information about investigations is perfectly fine to meet a political end also and we have seen members of congress thinking reading a parody account of the president's words is acceptable. These are the real chancers and chancers who have collectively been behaving despicably for over three years now with a clear objective of ousting the president from office. Democrats and their leftist allies (enabled by the mainstream media) have pearl clutched all throughout this time about alleged collusion of a presidential candidate with a foreign power, but when it becomes apparent that the accusation was false, and in fact appears to have been based on knowingly unreliable intel created, and paid for, by corrupt individuals, these same people look the other way, revealing themselves to be nothing but sanctimonious politically motivated phonies who couldn't care less about that which they pretend to and are only too happy to turn a blind eye to election meddling and corruption when it's being done by those who they have aligned themselves with.If it wasn't for double standards, they'd have no standards.
Boggles wrote: » The Whistleblower could be Bernie Sanders. What people are failing to grasp is it doesn't matter.
mad muffin wrote: » That’s true. Trump released the call. Nothing in it.
Igotadose wrote: » lol. What utter garbage. The President colluded with foreign adversaries. It didn't meet the standard of prosecution but was deferred to Congress to determine whether it's chargeable. While investigating this, another attempt at collusion with a foreign power was dropped into Congress' lap by this same, compromised President. His defenders like yourself have nothing other than screeching about farcical conspiracies and the 'deep state' to defend this due process that Congress is following under the Constitution. And, for extra credit, here's a timeline of the President colluding with yet another foreign power, in this case Turkey. Do recall that the President's NSA chief went to jail as part of his corrupt lying about being a paid lobbyist for Turkey. This administration, with it's 80+ indictments, hordes of resignations from every level of government up to the Cabinet and convictions, is by far the most criminal in modern US history.https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/10/trump-colluding-turkey-erdogan-kurds-syria.html
ollkiller wrote: » Exactly and remember all the people that bought "We're gonna drain that swamp". Yeah right buddy...
notobtuse wrote: » Trump is working on that. But he has been thwarted at every step as the swamp resists. Obviously not a easy as Trump thought it would be to rid Washington, DC of the corruption.
ollkiller wrote: » Trump is working on draining the swamp. Wow. I needed a laugh. Is draining the swamp taking poor people off Medicare or giving tax breaks to the rich. Ya he's sure working for the common man alright.
notobtuse wrote: » Gbear wrote: » If you're ever curious about how fascism arose in Europe, you only have to see the rampant bootlicking that goes on in favour of the current crop of chancers in the US Executive, whose raison d'etre is lining their pockets at others expense, including the tax payers they're supposed to be representing, to the point where they're whooping and cheering at them pissing on the constitution and legal framework of the United States. It's incredibly obvious that what these people want isn't freedom, the rule of law or civil liberties, as they have a fondness of bleating about, but an authoritarian, single-party, unitary government, so long as it's "their guy" in charge. Talk about gibberish! The US Constitution guarantees against a dictatorship with the separation of powers. I keep looking but have yet to see that the sky is falling. If Trump loses the election he will go home and we'll continue as we've always have.
duploelabs wrote: » He won't go home though, he'll go to jail as he's name a co-conspirator in the case that sent Michael Cohen to jail
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » Did they release the whole call or is this the memorandum (not a verbatim transcript) that you are talking about?
mad muffin wrote: » As per the whistleblower themselves. It’s word for word
notobtuse wrote: » I am curious as to what you consider the 'lasting damage' by Trump tol be? Spygate, the attempt by the DNC to illegally destroy a political candidate and then take down a duly elected president, is potentially the biggest political scandal in US history. The DNC hired foreign operatives, including Russians, to create a bogus Dossier that was then used by Obama political operatives in the FBI and DOJ to mislead a FISA court and allow them to spy on a presidential candidate. They then used the bogus Dossier as basis in their continued efforts to take Trump out once he was elected via the ridiculous Mueller investigation. And the DNC continues their appalling witch-hunt to take Trump out with a sham impeachment inquiry orchestrated by their kangaroo court. THIS IS THE REAL LASTING DAMAGE INFLICTED ON THE US AND THE CONSTITUTION.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » That doesn't answer my question,was it a transcript of the whole call or a memorandum of part of the call?
notobtuse wrote: » I think it might have missed a couple of ‘the’s, a few ‘and’s, and a whole lot of ‘HUUUUGE’s. :cool:
