Outlaw Pete wrote: » I'm glad you posted that, as it shows how removed from reality the left are, including mainstream entertainment, which of course leftists have the monopoly on. Used to love American late night, and liberals have ruined it, it's now largely leftist propaganda, but that's another thread.Sondland, clearly, sees from the texts that Taylor is wrong (/has an agenda) and so after informing him that Trump has been crystal clear re quid-pro-quos, he tells him that if he still has concerns, phone two other people that are also working on the talks. Sondland was meeting with Zelensky (and Volker) the next day and so I'm sure he had other things to be doing rather than having a pointless back and forth with this chap who it seems there was no talking to. Only leftists could read into him delegating the call as him actually saying "I Think We Should Stop Texting About the Crimes".Ever notice how you all have to keep making inferences all the time about what people have said, and it's never the actual words that anyone has that you are complaining about, just what they must have meant. Doesn't that tell you something eventually?
mcmoustache wrote: » Is anyone disagreeing that Trump asked foreign governments to investigate political rivals? I'm not sure where we are on this. I can't remember if we're at the "He didn't do it" phase or the "He did it but it's totally cool" phase. Maybe we're on both?
It’s a familiar split. When he makes claims like this, the press takes him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » Is anyone disagreeing that Biden bragged about how when he was Vice President he used $1billion in US aid as leverage to get a Ukrainian prosecutor fired, whilst at the same time also suggesting that the president at the time, Obama, would be okay with him doing so? I'm not sure where we are on this. I can't remember if we're at the "He didn't do it" phase or the "He did it but it's totally cool" phase. Maybe we're on both?
Annurca Apples wrote: » It seems to be common to make false inferences from statements that Trump makes.
Overheal wrote: » We know the call wasn’t made up We know Schiff was paraphrasing when he made that statement And?
Outlaw Pete wrote: » Overheal, you're quoting the transcript as if it supports what you're saying, but it doesn't, quite the contrary in fact (the above two quotes are her doing what you're saying she didn't). Ah here, now you're twisting what Pelosi said as you know you're wrong. Pelosi at no stage said that Schiff's parody was "based on..." Trump's words, she clearly said the parody was "USING" the president's words. 'Using' and 'based on' and two different things. She's also saying Schiff did not "make it up" and we all know damn well that he did, as Trump at no stage asked Zelensky to "make up dirt .. lots of it" on Biden during that call. Here is the clip on GMA's own Twitter page:https://twitter.com/GMA/status/1179717036047421440 Admit you're wrong ffs.
Overheal wrote: » Your alt-right crowd
mcmoustache wrote: » I could believe the Joe Biden theory as something other than a manufactured controversy if there was noise made about it at the time. Am I supposed to believe that Joe Biden did something improper as VP and the Republicans at the time didn't make a big deal about it? Have people just forgotten the relationship between Republicans and the Obama administration?
Veritas Libertas wrote: » I have seen that clip where he says that. But it seems there was international agreement and support for this action, or am I wrong? For me this definitely lightens the crime considerably.
mad muffin wrote: » That’s what they want you to believe. There has been a lot of info coming out of Ukraine and the Obama administration of late. There is a massive coverup about Ukraine and it’s not from Trump.https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-...krainian-government-torpedo-joe-bidens-story/ Within a week of Shokin’s firing, Burisma’s legal team met with Ukrainian officials and according to the Ukrainian government’s official memo of the meeting, offered “an apology for dissemination of false information by U.S. representatives and public figures” about the Ukrainian prosecutor. Solomon reports that the legal team’s efforts to secure this meeting began the same day Shokin’s firing was announced If you have half an hour this is worth a watch goes into some detail about the call. About Obama’s policy in Ukraine and China. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZXF7YWwe-g Don’t forget. All the gains made by Russia and China were under Obama’s watch. Don’t forget that when Ukraine needed weapons Obama sent them blankets. It was Trump who sent weapons to Ukraine. Don’t forget it was Obama who told Putin that he wild be more flexible after the 2012 election. Don’t forget that it was Obama’s administration who knew of Russian meddling but colluded with Hillary to spy on candidate Trump. Two officials who helped in Ukraine were tried and found guilty. FLASHBACK: ABC's Jon Karl Asked Obama WH About "Appearance Of A Conflict" With Hunter Biden And Ukraine In 2014https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/29/flashback_abcs_jon_karl_asked_obama_wh_about_appearance_of_a_conflict_with_hunter_biden_and_ukraine_in_2014.html
duploelabs wrote: » Is ODS (Obama dereangement syndrome) a thing?
The Phantom Jipper wrote: » The endless Twitter links and conspiracy theory videos explaining "the real scandal" are unnecessary. It really is an open and shut case.
The Phantom Jipper wrote: » Trump is being impeached because he asked the Ukrainians to investigate a political opponent, and used taxpayer funds as leverage to get them to do so. His own public statements and transcript confirm this. The endless Twitter links and conspiracy theory videos explaining "the real scandal" are unnecessary. It really is an open and shut case.
The Phantom Jipper wrote: » Trump is being impeached because he asked the Ukrainians to investigate a political opponent, and used taxpayer funds as leverage to get them to do so. His own public statements and transcript confirm this.
mad muffin wrote: » First of all he’s not being impeached. Second you are simply spreading lies. Third. When you invoke the “conspiracy theories” card you have lost any of the little credibility you have. Despite the MSM and Democrats best efforts the truth will out.
Cody montana wrote: » Indeed and trump will go to prison.
hetuzozaho wrote: » Did some research.. "Pinocchio could only have told 13 lies before his nose became so long his neck would have broken, scientists have concluded." How many lies is trump currently on?
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » If that bites him then Trumps appointments of his daughter, son in law etc into top positions should definitely be used against him
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » Someone get this lunatic out of the white house before it's too late.
