Outlaw Pete wrote: » Did another citizen brag publicly that when they were Vice President they had threatened to withhold $1Billion in foreign aid from a country until that country got rid of one of their prosecutors? Nah, didn't think so, Mitt.
mcmoustache wrote: » Out of curiosity, is anyone denying that Trump looked for a political favour from a foreign government? Are they just saying that it's totally cool now?
So, a Deep State operative who worked with Ukrainian officials to dig up dirt on Trump during the 2016 election becomes the main source for Democrats' effort to impeach Trump — for allegedly asking Ukraine to dig up dirt on former Vice President Joe Biden, his likely 2020 challenger. That's more than a little hypocritical, right? - - -In May 2018, Democratic senators sent a letter to Ukraine's prosecutor general, Yuriy Lutsenko, asking him to reopen investigations into Trump related to the Robert Mueller probe. They also suggested their support for military aid to Ukraine was conditional on the investigation into Trump. - - - In February 2018, Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, told Russian pranksters that he would welcome dirt on Trump from Ukrainian officials. In the prank call, Schiff asked about recordings of Russians "discussing the compromising material on Mr. Trump," and said, "Well obviously we would welcome a chance to get copies of those recordings." Schiff, who is largely leading the impeachment inquiry, himself has potentially troubling ties to Ukraine. - - -Ukrainian officials have also tried to present evidence of wrongdoing on behalf of American Democrats and their allies in Ukraine, specifically involving foreign meddling against Trump and for Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election. Naturally, this comes from officials in Zelensky's administration, accusing former officials in Poroshenko's administration of working to further American Democrats' untoward schemes.
notobtuse wrote: » No, that was Democrats, again. Trump thought it would be a good idea for the Ukrainian president to look into their part in the hacking of the 2016 election and to look into corruption. But if you want to continue to be like #FullOfSchiff, then have at it. And, more interesting information coming out about this whistleblower and Ukraine…https://pjmedia.com/trending/report-ex-cia-impeachment-whistleblower-dug-up-dirt-against-trump-in-ukraine/
mcmoustache wrote: » So no defense. Just whataboutery, smears and obfuscation.
notobtuse wrote: » It's not whataboutery... its WhatTheF#ckYouHypocrites... and truth to power. Pretty ironic if the Democrats in the House were to impeach Trump for doing something they claim, that was similar to what the Obama administration actually orchestrated against Trump in the presidential 2016 campaign. Dontcha think? But since the Democrats seemingly have no morals, who would expect otherwise.
mcmoustache wrote: » Which American political opponent did Biden single out?
Mitt:When the only American citizen President Trump singles out for China’s investigation is his political opponent in the midst of the Democratic nomination process, it strains credulity to suggest that it is anything other than politically motivated. Me:Did another citizen brag publicly that when they were Vice President they had threatened to withhold $1Billion in foreign aid from a country until that country got rid of one of their prosecutors? Nah, didn't think so, Mitt. You:Which American political opponent did Biden single out?
Outlaw Pete wrote: » That's actually your reply? And you actually think that makes sense, do you? Seriously? And who even said Biden singled out anyone? Point missed by a country mile.
duploelabs wrote: » Hey Pete, did Biden try to conseal his pressuring of the removal of a foreign prosecutor?
Did he move his transcripts to a code word secured server?
Outlaw Pete wrote: » No, did I say he did? Nope, again, did I say Biden did? Two more nonsense questions that in no way, shape or form, rebut the point which is being quoted.
notobtuse wrote: » Interesting… The form submitted by the whistleblower required him/her to disclose all contacts they had regarding allegations. If he/she failed to disclose those interactions with Shifty Schiff before filing the complaint, the whistleblower could and should be subject to felony false statement charges. It is being reported by Catherine Herridge that the IC Inspector General told lawmakers the whistleblower did not disclose contact with Schiff/Committee staff. So now it looks like we have both lies and a cover-up by the Democrats and their operatives. Who should the Republicans choose as the next Speaker?
mcmoustache wrote: » And as for Pelosi, do you know how speakers are chosen? I'm curious as to how you think Republicans would have a say in that.
notobtuse wrote: » Simple... by vote through majority representation after taking back the House in the next election. It's not rocket science.
Overheal wrote: » Did any citizen (Biden or otherwise) brag about withholding $1Bn without the support of the GOP, EU, IMF and State Department? Nah, didn’t think so, Pete.
duploelabs wrote: » How'd that work out last time?
notobtuse wrote: » Win some, lose some… with all the Democratic lies, deceit and corruption going on it looks like time for another win.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » And another garbage reply ... not one of you rebutted the point I made and that folks is because you can't. What Mitt said was a nonsense, because to say "When the only American citizen President Trump singles out [for doing x] is his political opponent...." is to suggest that Trump had options in that regard..... that there were others who have done the very same thing Biden did .... and Trump choose not to call for investigations into them, just Biden. If that were true, then Mitt would have had a point, but it's not and so he doesn't. All this: "Did Biden do this and that and the other thing, Pete, cause Trump did" is all baloney and again, in no way, shape or form, addresses the point which I made, which was..... that Trump only called for Biden to be investigated when speaking with the president of Ukraine, because Biden is the only one that boasted about committing a quid pro quo crime with a billion US dollars in the Ukraine. Trump would have been negligent if he did not raise the issue with Zelensky. Not that I agree with everything he has said in his pressers, mind, but on that call, he did and said nothing wrong, it was.... you could say, perfect.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » https://twitter.com/RepRatcliffe/status/1180199673245683713
Pilly2019 wrote: » Trump is going to win 2020 and there is nothing the Marxists can do to stop him 6/5 @ PADDYPOWER WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE
noel1980 wrote: » Of course he is. I check the odds every day and they've barely budged since this impeachment fiasco happened. But Biden is finished