joeysoap wrote: » The American panelist on QT understands the Irish perspective better than the majority of English people.
Panrich wrote: » The plan to comply with the Benn act AND to still exit on 31st October has been well finalised before yesterdays meeting with the Hungarians. There is a smugness to the way that cabinet ministers say that they will comply with the law and leave on the 31st, that leads me to believe that they have a trick up their sleeve that nobody else has considered yet.
Charles Babbage wrote: » Very true, here she is.https://twitter.com/i/status/1179986543018201088
Tea Shock wrote: » The only thing the Benn act obliges them to do is to send a letter asking for an extension. - They don't have to back that up in their verbal exchanges, - they don't have to reappoint a commissioner - As John Major has speculated, they could pass an Order of Council to suspend the Benn Act until November - They could disapply the Benn Act by recourse to the Civil Contingencies Act allowing existing legislation to be suspended in the event of a national emergency.
An Ciarraioch wrote: » The NI Secretary is open to the petition of concern being scrapped specifically for votes on regulatory alignment:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/04/stormont-party-veto-could-be-ditched-for-brexit-says-minister
Tea Shock wrote: » She lost a bit of credibility when she said the EU were one of those that sat down to make the GFA happen
George Mitchell wrote: "I don't think the European Union was essential in the [Good Friday Agreement] talks themselves, but I believe the talks would never have occurred had there not been a European Union."
Ursula wrote: If the U.K. were to ask for an extension, and if that were granted, then according to the rules of the treaty, then yes, a commissioner would have to be appointed and that person would receive a portfolio
FrancieBrady wrote: » The EU was involved with the GFA. When the ceasefires happened in 1994 they immediately responded with the Peace Programmes. Here is Geroge Mitchell's view:
GM228 wrote: » According to the incoming president Ursula von der Leyen in her 10th September speech they do if an extension is granted.
farmchoice wrote: » i think most of those options have been discounted by legal experts with the exception of not appointing a commissioner but whilst that would in theory lead to the uk being in effect thrown out of the eu it would not happen quickly.
Tea Shock wrote: » That isn't the part she claimed the EU took!
Rjd2 wrote: » Top 2 Parties will be Labour and Tories next time round. In 2016 Tories got 317 seats, Labour 262 and Lib Dems 12. Swinson is more formidable than Farron but brave call to think they will get close to the big two. I don't even think the Lib Dems will hurt Labour that much, reading a Guardian article the other week their was only 2 Labour seats they would fancy winning. However when it comes to the tories its currently 20. Ladbrokes have the tories in for under/over 306.5....labour under/over 227.5 and the Lib Dems under/over 39.5 currently. Lib Dems will do well next time round, but like Brexit Party might struggle to translate the poll numbers into seats. Also easy to forget Swinson is not a cert to hold her seat either, she has lost it before and the SNP will be targeting it hard.
Tea Shock wrote: » I think you're missing the point - it is a way of complying with the Benn Act without getting an extension - which is what they want! I think it's a mistake to assume these people won't make new interpretations of law
GM228 wrote: » Sorry I mis-read the post, but whilst it may frustrate the workings of the European Commission (i.e it could not work in accordance with the provisions of the TFEU), but, that does not in effect throw them out of Europe.
ballsymchugh wrote: » the absolute clown in the audience who suggested that 'Eire' should buy the 6 counties shows the chasm that is between the sensible and idiotic in the UK. why would you buy back what was stolen?!!!
J Mysterio wrote: » Thats not what the guy said. He said that UK should "give the six counties back to Eire" and that if people werent happy, they could give them a financial incentive to move to Britain. Still a bit off the wall.
Tea Shock wrote: » But will it cause the EU to reject an extension request when the UK make it known in advance that they will refuse to appoint one?
Panrich wrote: » I have a huge worry that all these ads about leaving on 31st October and the 'Get Brexit Done' slogans seen everywhere, they MUST have a genuine certainty in their plan. I suppose we'll see what transpires but the court case revelations today add nothing that they haven't been saying for ages anyway.
Water John wrote: » Lib Dems will regain seats in the SW, taking mainly from Tories.
