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Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

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The comparison was silly. Walsh could be argued as the worst of those three and Mayo sacrificed their best player on Saturday to follow him everywhere. If Walsh jumped into the first row of concrete benches around the edge, Keegan would've hopped in beside him. Hardly conductive to getting easy space and ball

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Blackjack

Gerianam wrote: »

AOS was excellent this year.

He was but you’re not allowed to acknowledge that as the knuckle draggers and trolls will be out in their droves.

PressRun

Gerianam wrote: »

AOS was excellent this year.

Was basically a one man midfield for most of the season. Dragged us through the qualifiers. But people aren't ready for that conversation.

Durcan will get his and that'll be it, I suspect.

As for the county board, think I've made my feelings on them clear plenty of times before on here.
Wouldn't trust anyone on that board as far as I could throw them.

BandMember

Personally, I'd give them to Boyle and AOS. However, the media will give midfield to Fenton and Moran.

If Durcan gets one, he's basically getting it for the last two games - he wouldn't have been mentioned as strongly before that. Don't get me wrong, he's one of our key players and leaders of our team (and was excellent in those games), but we're only going to get one in the half back line and, for me, it has to be Boyle.

Muahahaha

This gave me a laugh

A millionaire businessman has claimed certain people are out to discredit him after his foundation withheld €250,000 in funding from Mayo GAA's county board in a row over governance. UK-based trader Tim O'Leary hit out at "irrelevant" stories which had been circulated in GAA circles since the dispute erupted.

The cash was pledged by the Mayo GAA International Supporters Foundation, which Mr O'Leary founded and chairs, towards the creation of academy and centre of excellence facilities. However, the money was held back when business plans for the projects were not produced by the county board. The dispute came to the fore in recent days after a letter from the foundation, which was highly critical of the county board, was circulated to clubs across the county.

Speaking to the Irish Independent, Mr O'Leary stood over the contents of the letter, which stated funding would cease until "appropriate governance structures" are put in place. The English-born millionaire, whose mother is from Mayo, said he was "a massive sports fan" and wanted what was best for GAA in the county. Despite the breakdown of the relationship between the foundation and the county board, he insisted he did not want to walk away.

"I am just trying to change the system that has been in place for X number of years," he said.
"Do I need my name and picture in the papers? No. But that is unfortunately the price I have to pay today," he added. The foundation, whose membership is said to include other successful international business people with Mayo connections, began funding the county's GAA teams last year. Mr O'Leary says he has already personally contributed €415,000 to Mayo GAA and the foundation, which organised a successful gala fundraising dinner in New York last May, attended by former Taoiseach Enda Kenny. The event coincided with the Mayo senior football team's Connacht Championship clash with New York.

In recent days sources within GAA circles in the county claimed Mr O'Leary had been asked to leave the team bus during the trip. But Mr O'Leary flatly denied this happened.

The same sources also highlighted a tabloid newspaper story which detailed how Mr O'Leary dropped his trousers while cheering on England at their Euro 2012 quarter-final clash with Italy in Kiev, Ukraine, in a vain effort to put off an Italian penalty taker.

Responding to the spreading of such stories, Mr O'Leary said: "That is absolutely irrelevant to this situation. "People want to try and discredit me. But at the end of the day I have spent a significant amount of money and I have pledged further money [to Mayo GAA]. "I want what's best for Mayo GAA. That is the most important thing. I want Mayo to win All Irelands. That would be my ambition. I want to sit there in Croke Park with my brothers, my mother who is from Mayo, my uncles, my cousins.

"This is not Tim O'Leary versus Mayo GAA.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/people-want-to-try-to-discredit-me-says-millionaire-mayo-gaa-donor-38539267.html

I like this guy, he will do anything to see his team win including mooning Italian penalty takers in front of international TV cameras. A dedicated sports fan if ever I saw one. The Mayo County Board need to shut the fcuk up, produce the dam business plan and take the money that he is trying to give them.

statto25

Muahahaha wrote: »

The Mayo County Board need to shut the fcuk up, produce the dam business plan and take the money that he is trying to give them.

How could they spend it on whatever they like then? Its a shambles once again. The man is trying to invest in GAA in the county and if that 400gs figure is correct, is damn entitled to know where the money will be spent.

Blackjack

BandMember wrote: »

Personally, I'd give them to Boyle and AOS. However, the media will give midfield to Fenton and Moran.

If Durcan gets one, he's basically getting it for the last two games - he wouldn't have been mentioned as strongly before that. Don't get me wrong, he's one of our key players and leaders of our team (and was excellent in those games), but we're only going to get one in the half back line and, for me, it has to be Boyle.

I though Paddy was exceptional against Galway to be honest. I don’t think Kerry would have given us as much of a trimming as they did if he wasn’t injured for that game either.
Personally I thought Paddy was hard done by not to get an All Star in 2016 or 2017. I’d have given it to him ahead of Boyler in 2016.

BandMember

Blackjack wrote: »

I though Paddy was exceptional against Galway to be honest. I don’t think Kerry would have given us as much of a trimming as they did if he wasn’t injured for that game either.
Personally I thought Paddy was hard done by not to get an All Star in 2016 or 2017. I’d have given it to him ahead of Boyler in 2016.

I'd definitely agree with you that we wouldn't have gotten such a trimming v Kerry if he had been there alright - as I said, he's one of our leaders, main men and top players. Did well against Galway, but missed games through injury so that will go against him. He might have been hard done by in 16 and 17, but this is 2019 so the history is irrelevant I'm afraid.

PressRun

Durcan will get it for his performances on McCaffrey and McHugh. Rightly or wrongly, that's how it'll go, especially after McCaffrey's performance in the drawn final.

ChikiChiki

Suarezistheman wrote: »

Yes I've read it. One of the primary objectives of the foundation was to help with the new proposed facility. Just because Connolly didn't forward a business plan doesn't mean it was never going ahead. Id just say he wasn't arsed and thought the cash would keep coming without the additional hassle of creating a business plan. Well and truly blown up in his face now though

Its not that difficult to put together a business plan. Certainly little hassle for what would be received in return.

SomethingElse

Muahahaha wrote: »

I like this guy, he will do anything to see his team win including mooning Italian penalty takers in front of international TV cameras. A dedicated sports fan if ever I saw one. The Mayo County Board need to shut the fcuk up, produce the dam business plan and take the money that he is trying to give them.

Where was he when Dean Rock was taking that free?!

RobbieRuns

SomethingElse wrote: »

Where was he when Dean Rock was taking that free?!

Throwing his GPS at the TV?

seligehgit

So we've hopefully got a couple of appetising county semi finals at the weekend.

Saturday 5th October 2019 @ 19.30

Ballintubber v Ballina Stephenites

Should be a cracker.I've an inkling the Stephenites will push the Tubber men all the way.

Sunday October 6th 2019 @ 15.30

Ballaghaderreen v Castlebar Mitchels

Mitchels have yet to catch fire this year and were by all accounts put to the pin of their collar by Knockmore.Ballagh with Andy inspired post calling a halt to his inter county career will ensure it's another tight affair but I suspect the Mitchels will get over the line.

irishgeo

Interesting statement from supermacs calling out the Galway county board and funding allocations.

https://www.supermacs.ie/supermacs-statement-re-galway-gaa-finances/?fbclid=IwAR2jqwuOSz1cBbvSDwHqzhwuvWtBdjC02nm_c6tHHrpUWOFHWF_qSsLXSEE

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Did anyone see Laochra Gael - Liam McHale on Sunday ?

I had to turn it off when they got to the 1996 first game v Meath
I could not watch anymore.

Think of how different the last 23 years would have been had that game been won.
A fair fits of the the '51 team would have been able to savor in the victory.
After this season just gone I feel we as far away as every from a title, unfortunately.

A brighter aspect of the show for me was the 1989 final build up.
Both McHale and Maughan talk about just how big the hype was that September.
It was the only final i was in Mayo for the build up, and it was something special.
I don't come from a particularly sporting family and neither of my parents were much into the local GAA scene, but we did noting that September only talk about the upcoming final.
I remember a Dublin guy at the top of Main St in Castlebar for two solid weeks selling hats, flags, scarfs and headbands.

Anthony Larry Finnerty was on a Newstalk special with Nathan Murphy a few years ago talking about Mayo, and of course hype came into it.

Anthony Larry said that no fan should ever have to apologize about getting excited about their team being in an All Ireland final
And he was dead right

Green&Red

I watched the first bit, until Coyle put the ball over the bar, my dad turned around and said “ah for f**ks sake” like he’d never seen it before, kinda summed it up for me

On that point, I actually thought Madden was more at fault, he wasn’t, at all.

I met his dad recently, very nice man, kinda felt it weights heavy on them

boosabum

Madden played for his club a few months ago, i would image he is in his early to mid 40's now and that 1996 final is 23 years ago.

Anyway, he posted on twitter about playing and a few jackass's were onto him about that bouncing ball going over the bar. A bit much tbh.

I always wonder how non of the backs attacked that ball as it was drove in

gormdubhgorm

What do Mayo people make of the latest (Tim O'Leary) Mayo GAA International Supporters Foundation v Mayo County Board?

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-mayos-sugar-daddy-row-is-a-cautionary-tale-for-others-38554202.html

"Tim O'Leary is, by all accounts, something of a Mayo supporter extraordinaire. A wealthy businessman, who hails from London, his family links with green-and-red country coaxed him into doing something practical to help the cause.

He set up the Mayo GAA International Supporters Foundation, with the aim of raising substantial funds for various projects in the county.

It worked too. Huge sums were generated - a dinner in New York last May to coincide with Mayo's Connacht Championship game contributed $253,000 (€231,000) to the coffers and O'Leary claims that he has made personal donations of €415,000. Now that's serious 'Sugar Daddy' stuff.

It sounded like great news for Mayo, but unfortunately a hitch has arisen. Relations between the foundation and the Mayo County Board strained after last May's venture and €250,000 is being withheld due to a dispute.

It's all out in the open now after the foundation informed Mayo clubs that funding to the county board would cease "until appropriate governance structures are put in place"

Should the Mayo County Board be entitled to use the money gifted to them without "appropriate governance structures put in place" or do you think that Tim O'Leary and the Mayo International Supporters foundation are interfering in County Board matters?

Pineapple1

Fr Tod Umptious wrote:

Did anyone see Laochra Gael - Liam McHale on Sunday ?

Missed that, thankfully I've the series set to record. Has there been any other Mayo players past or present that have been on Laochra Gael?

RedDevil55

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

What do Mayo people make of the latest (Tim O'Leary) Mayo GAA International Supporters Foundation v Mayo County Board?

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-mayos-sugar-daddy-row-is-a-cautionary-tale-for-others-38554202.html

"Tim O'Leary is, by all accounts, something of a Mayo supporter extraordinaire. A wealthy businessman, who hails from London, his family links with green-and-red country coaxed him into doing something practical to help the cause.

He set up the Mayo GAA International Supporters Foundation, with the aim of raising substantial funds for various projects in the county.

It worked too. Huge sums were generated - a dinner in New York last May to coincide with Mayo's Connacht Championship game contributed $253,000 (€231,000) to the coffers and O'Leary claims that he has made personal donations of €415,000. Now that's serious 'Sugar Daddy' stuff.

It sounded like great news for Mayo, but unfortunately a hitch has arisen. Relations between the foundation and the Mayo County Board strained after last May's venture and €250,000 is being withheld due to a dispute.

It's all out in the open now after the foundation informed Mayo clubs that funding to the county board would cease "until appropriate governance structures are put in place"

Should the Mayo County Board be entitled to use the money gifted to them without "appropriate governance structures put in place" or do you think that Tim O'Leary and the Mayo International Supporters foundation are interfering in County Board matters?

I'm sure everyone agrees there should be transparency around where money goes. The following article shows how much pressure is on the county board - http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/34337-mayo-gaa-chairman-calls-on-croke-park-to-support-firefighting-county-boards

Apparently they are working on producing the necessary business plans to draw down the money, so hopefully it's sorted soon.

elderberry

RedDevil55 wrote: »

I'm sure everyone agrees there should be transparency around where money goes. The following article shows how much pressure is on the county board - http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/34337-mayo-gaa-chairman-calls-on-croke-park-to-support-firefighting-county-boards

Apparently they are working on producing the necessary business plans to draw down the money, so hopefully it's sorted soon.

From that Mayo News article it sounds like the Commercial Manager will have a lot on his plate.

padd b1975

Pineapple1 wrote: »

Missed that, thankfully I've the series set to record. Has there been any other Mayo players past or present that have been on Laochra Gael?

Willie Joe.

BandMember

RedDevil55 wrote: »

I'm sure everyone agrees there should be transparency around where money goes. The following article shows how much pressure is on the county board - http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/34337-mayo-gaa-chairman-calls-on-croke-park-to-support-firefighting-county-boards

Apparently they are working on producing the necessary business plans to draw down the money, so hopefully it's sorted soon.

Connolly is some clown! First of all, why is he calling on Croke Park to sort a mess that's got absolutely nothing to do with them?? This is all down to the Mayo County Board - they're elected to their positions (or appointed to their positions with a financial package) in order to do the basic stuff like spend the money, know where it's spent and be able to account for it! If they can't do that much, then what the f**k are they there for???

As for his comment about being constantly fighting fires...... Well, if the County Board (including himself, whose been responsible for more than his fair share of fires) weren't constantly going around with a can of petrol in one hand and a box of matches in the other..... :rolleyes:

RedDevil55

BandMember wrote: »

Connolly is some clown! First of all, why is he calling on Croke Park to sort a mess that's got absolutely nothing to do with them?? This is all down to the Mayo County Board - they're elected to their positions (or appointed to their positions with a financial package) in order to do the basic stuff like spend the money, know where it's spent and be able to account for it! If they can't do that much, then what the f**k are they there for???

As for his comment about being constantly fighting fires...... Well, if the County Board (including himself, whose been responsible for more than his fair share of fires) weren't constantly going around with a can of petrol in one hand and a box of matches in the other..... :rolleyes:

Did you read the article? He's saying the workload involved is too much for 4 volunteers to do in the evenings and weekends.

You make it sound so simple, "just spend the money"?! The monthly loan repayment on MacHale Park is €33k. God knows what monthly costs are for running the county teams. Then Tim Oleary (understandably) wants clarification that his money will only be spent on the Lough Lannagh centre and academy teams.

Connelly's term is up this year so he won't be around much longer. Something tells me there won't be a queue of qualified CEOs looking for the position.

seligehgit

RedDevil55 wrote: »

Did you read the article? He's saying the workload involved is too much for 4 volunteers to do in the evenings and weekends.

You make it sound so simple, "just spend the money"?! The monthly loan repayment on MacHale Park is €33k. God knows what monthly costs are for running the county teams. Then Tim Oleary (understandably) wants clarification that his money will only be spent on the Lough Lannagh centre and academy teams.

Connelly's term is up this year so he won't be around much longer. Something tells me there won't be a queue of qualified CEOs looking for the position.

Agree with your sentiment,Seamus Tuohy will have an unenviable task when he assumes office.The running of county board executives becomes ever more onerous and incompatible with the involvement of volunteer GAA members.

Without doubt as BandMember stated the Mike Connelly chairmanship will be remembered for the issues around the Noel Connelly/Pat Holmes appointment,the player revolt and the treatment of Stephen Rochford at the death of his management reign.

boosabum

padd b1975 wrote: »

Willie Joe.

Cora

Green&Red

Anyone going to the matches at the weekend? Might go to the Ballintubber/Ballina game.

Folks in Ballina are convinced that theyre winning the county this year, its some confidence they have given they've beat f**k all. I fancy Ballintubber to win handy enough, too much inexperience in Ballina and too small

Castlebar will wipe the floor with Ballaghdereen

seligehgit

Green&Red wrote: »

Anyone going to the matches at the weekend? Might go to the Ballintubber/Ballina game.

Folks in Ballina are convinced that theyre winning the county this year, its some confidence they have given they've beat f**k all. I fancy Ballintubber to win handy enough, too much inexperience in Ballina and too small

Castlebar will wipe the floor with Ballaghdereen

Hoping to head up to the games.

I didn't see the quarter finals but I think it might be closer than you think.

Are the Mitchels playing well enough to wipe the floor on Ballagh?

Green&Red

seligehgit wrote: »

Hoping to head up to the games.

I didn't see the quarter finals but I think it might be closer than you think.

Are the Mitchels playing well enough to wipe the floor on Ballagh?

On the basis of the quarter final the pick of Davitts and Ballagh wouldn't give Castlebar a game, they were both awful only Ballagh had Andy who is a class above.
Not that mitchells were great, we should have beaten them but they will have more than enough to beat these lads

jr86

Green&Red wrote: »

Anyone going to the matches at the weekend? Might go to the Ballintubber/Ballina game.

Folks in Ballina are convinced that theyre winning the county this year, its some confidence they have given they've beat f**k all. I fancy Ballintubber to win handy enough, too much inexperience in Ballina and too small

Castlebar will wipe the floor with Ballaghdereen

Ballina haven't had it easy at all, came through a tricky group with Castlebar, Westport and Aghamore unbeaten, and got through Breaffy who have made multiple finals in the past few years.

I'd actually go as far as saying they couldn't have had much tougher a route to this stage, given who they could have potentially drawn at each stage. Giddiness well warranted - imo!

Green&Red

I would disagree there while they all are going ok in the league, its only the league

Aghamore and Westport were both in the relegation playoffs in 2017, Aghamore were there last year again, Westport made the quarters last year but that was out of a group of Crossmolina, Claremorris and Hollymount. Westport in particular are talked about as potential championship winners at some stage in the future, fair enough they won an intermediate all-ireland but its a huge step up, theres no evidence to show they will do it anytime soon.

Breaffy always find some way to lose in the championship, fair enough the county final last year but Claremorris in a quarter the previous year, Knockmore in a semi, hammered in the final 2015. I wouldn't put much stock in beating them.

Ballina need to beat Ballintubber or Castlebar to be seriously considered contenders IMO (Edit: I'd say the same about Knockmore if they were in the same boat)