weldoninhio wrote: » So, sorta the same as expecting a sixteen year old with Aspergers to be the voice of a scientific phenomena she has no clue about??
Thargor wrote: » The majority of electric cars will be charged at night when the country is running on renewables, the percentage of power coming from renewables makes huge jumps every year, this is true across the world, led by China and India. Anyway the massive waste and greenhouse gas emissions that go into getting fossil fuels to the pump only for most of that energy to be wasted by internal combustion engines (theoretical max is 40% efficiency) is criminal.
Tony EH wrote: » Except she isn't and nobody expects that at all. She's merely asking the leaders of the world to listen to the scientific community on the issue of climate change. Why is it so, so difficult for some people to get this. :pac:
weldoninhio wrote: » And Jeremy Clarkson wasn’t asking everyone to have a tyre fire every night. Yet his opinion is invalid. Laughable double standards.
gozunda wrote: » Unfortunately is little better than an often repeated urban myth The country doess not run at night on 'renewables". The coal and gas fired power stations do not magically become inactive. We are currently importing biomas from Australia which is shipped here by tanker which use hundreds of thousands of gallons of fossil fuel. Again more tokenism. It remains that currently over 70 % of electricity produced here comes from fossil fuels. As for China etc - The Chinese state is still commissioning huge numbers of new coal power station both in China itself and also many other developing nations and plan to fo do for the foreseeable future. And talking of energy wastage - the loss of generated power from remote wind and solar generators due to transmission loss is huge. So no EVs are not some magical solution with our current set up. Maybe in some distant future but at the moment they are largely eyewash imo.
Tell me how wrote: » Swing and a miss. Strike 134. Her only submission to the US congress was the IPCC report on climate change.
Tell me how wrote: » All you're doing here is supporting the argument that work needs to be done. Thanks for that.
gozunda wrote: » Just pointing out that which is obvious You're welcome ...
Tell me how wrote: » So, now that you can see that we are already doing some things, and that more needs to be done, I trust you will support anyone advocating for progress in any way rather than expressing cynicism and negativity while misinterpreting and misunderstanding and seeking to silence those trying to be proactive.
gozunda wrote: » See above ... Do you teach your grandmother to suck eggs or like greta - are you going to tell us all - how it is?And still haven't explained the inexplicable greta worship no? Sorry if you dont understand what is posted. But no matter I an lend you a very good dictionary to help with done of the basic comprehension issues if that will help ...
Tell me how wrote: » Cannot explain what doesn't exist. Appreciation for her massive efforts in creating awareness, and an increasing conversation on the need for change does not equate to worship.
gozunda wrote: » Choosing to ignore the teenagers rantings and lambasting any one pointing these out is truely inexplicable - whether you chose to accept that or otherwise. As stated her ministrations and fear and panic protestations are doing more harm than good. Its truely bizarre you cannot see any of that. But there we go ...
Tell me how wrote: » In what way? 7M+ people joined protests in the last week calling for change. the biggest global demonstration in human history. Do you think it should be possible to fix after one talk at the UN?
(Eco) anxiety is mirrored by apocalyptic treatment of the theme in movies such as The Road, in which a father and son scavenge in a bleak world set after a major extinction event. People may have nightmares about such ideas and become very worried. For example, one child was so concerned about the threat of drought caused by climate change that he refused to drink water, lest millions die as a result. This condition can involve immobilization, manic re/activity, exhaustion, and insomnia.This indicates that, like general anxiety, eco-anxiety occurs on a spectrum and can be beneficial or harmful to the individual's life depending on the strength of the emotion. ... Swedish schoolgirl Greta Thunberg, who started the school strike for climate, warned to be extremely concerned about the matter: "...I don’t want you to be hopeful, I want you to panic."[When she was younger, she fell into a depression and she has claimed that this was because of her worries about climate change. The term "eco-angst" has also been suggested.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » You're wasting your time talking to that guy. He always has to have the last say in everything. Like a petulant child.
gozunda wrote: » Did I even suggest that gretas post apocalyptic doomsdayism and tantrums could fix anything? This might help though ...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eco-anxiety If you dont like wiki - google it - theres lots of good information out there I believe the condition is treatable ...
Tell me how wrote: » I understand the motivations of some. I continue to engage mostly for 2 reasons. 1 - I'm not letting someone pessimist dominate the discussion and deny either the need for change or the positive effort that Greta is doing just so they can ultimately say 'everyone agrees with me' because no one is arguing with them.2 - That poster has suggested their motivation for disagreeing with Greta is one of 7 or 8 different reasons at this stage and it is interesting (to some extent) watch them move from one to the next.
Tell me how wrote: » Yawn....
gozunda wrote: » Pessimist (sic) or simply a realist pointing out what is wrong with this whole panic and fear movement? No? Think about it. But why do you feel the need to dominate the discussion as was pointed out by another poster - over 10% of all comments?https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111394415&postcount=4840It remains many other posters here have different opinions - that you do not agree with them is irrelevant to your stated aims of bashing everyone else to death with assorted gretacisms Of note - you jumped on my reply to another poster - and yet here you chose to endlessly barrage me because I do not share your views. Very very strange indeed ... Nope not engaging with that type of rubbish any more. But I'd suggest if you are feeling tired get your vitamin B12 checked. Supposedly helps with mental fatigue. Bye ....
US2 wrote: » I find this piece of "news" very, very strange. The news is that there's no news??https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1179086612178915328?s=19
gozunda wrote: » No news as in not climate related news? Glaciers 'calve' on a cyclical basis. It's a big chunk of ice which has become detached - so newsworthy I suppose especially the danger to shipping such obstacles may pose ... Its not that different to making the claim for example (whilst talking about climate change) that 'people are dying' and it makes the news. Yes indeed people die all the time. However in the last 20 years, the largest cause of death related to natural disasters was the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami - when a quarter of a million people died and although that was unrelated to any supposed climatic event - it still made the news.
US2 wrote: » I find this piece of "news" very, very strange. The news is that there's no news??
US2 wrote: » There's no deaths involved here though is there? A piece of ice broke, like it does every single year. Bit like reporting leaves falling off a tree in autumn.
The farmers are heading for the Malieveld close to parliament, where tens of thousands are expected to join the protests. The demonstration has been prompted by a suggestion from coalition party D66 that Dutch livestock farming should be slashed to meet commitments on reducing nitrogren emissions. Farming organisations say their members are sick of being described by politicians, the media and activists as pollutors and animal abusers.source
manster wrote: » Is Greta back on her boat in the middle of Atlantic heading home?
gozunda wrote: » ^^^ preaching to sheep by the looks of it. Must be trying out a new speech :pac:
