A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: » I admit to having gotten a little indignant there Emmet but I can't help it. It grates when people propose to make your friends or family redundant and to ban a sport you feel passionate about, on the basis of a clear lack of correct information. Even if they still oppose hunting to hounds, I have respect people who bother to inform themselves on what the arguments are. There is no justification for wishing to put thousands of people out of work and destroy an important industry without doing any basic background check. You are talking about hunting blameless live animals? Barbaric.
Woke Hogan wrote: » I'm not the original poster but I personally find fat men absolutely disgusting to look at especially the middle-aged "salt of the earth" type, even though they're soft as ****e themselves. With massive tits. I was unfortunate enough to have to sit at a table in a restaurant next to a very overweight man in his late forties and his son after the boy's soccer game on Saturday. The older man was spraying his son with shards of roast beef slices, telling the boy that he was "too soft" in the game had just played and urged him to "forget all that tippy tappy ****e" and to "get stuck in" more. This was athletic advice from a man who poured so much gravy over his dinner he could have drank it, and whose stink of stale cigarettes smelled so bad it was probably illegal for him to sit indoors where people were working. I stole a glance at the boy and he was just staring down at his own plate in shame, especially when his old man was giving him even more grief for not taking a full plate and committing the atrocity of eating moderately. Many men of this man's vintage love thinking that they're the last stand against the rise of effete snowflakes but examine their own behaviour at home and that's what you'll find. Gluttony. Sitting in front of a television drinking cans and eating takeaways. Smoking fags and gorging on plates of ice creams. Getting up only to take a ****e, scratch their hole or "let one rip." Soft. Soft. Weak men.
JohnnyFlash wrote: » I was reading this morning that the presence of a deadly disease that kills rabbits and hares has been confirmed in six counties in Ireland. What's even more worrying is that the counties aren't next to each other, we have cases in Clare in the West, Offaly in the Midlands, Leitrim in the North West, and Wexford in the South East. One could then speculate that the disease is more widespread than we've detected so far. Is now the time to look at a ban on hare coursing and the shooting of hares? Coursing involves trapping hares so they can be then be chased by greyhounds while fat men in flat caps gamble on the outcome. Shooting hares involves 'lamping', where fat men in wet gear shine high-powered torches to blind hares before blowing their heads off. For sport. Hare is a tough and sinewy meat. Now you'll meet hunters who say this is part of our heritage. Well so was picking who your daughter would marry, and kissing the ring of a bishop. Blowing the head off a small animal is barbaric, and you should probably find a more satisfying hobby. Do the good people of AH agree?
Graces7 wrote: » You are talking about hunting blameless live animals? Barbaric.
BattleCorp wrote: » A lot of people in Ireland would have gone hungry without rabbits. We had rabbit regularly (weekly) when I was a kid.
topper75 wrote: » There is occasion for such. Controlling deer population. Letting them starve through over-pop and refusing to exercise our power to dispatch a portion of them each season in a pain-limiting rifle-crack instant would be more barbaric, no? The Irish hunting fraternity is a broad group and no doubt there would be an element therein that won't win any empathy competition, but shooting is a key part of wildlife management in any industrialised nation. I couldn't justify shooting animals with natural predators like hares.
Graces7 wrote: » way off topic again. See the thread title; about exploiting animals for frivolous purposes...as in hares?
IAMAMORON wrote: » As far as I am aware all the hares which are used for the coursing are bred wild on Oyster island off the coast of Rosses Point Golf club. So if that gets contaminated there will be trouble for the coursing. .
topper75 wrote: » but shooting is a key part of wildlife management in any industrialised nation.
Greyfox wrote: » Grand as long as you eat what you kill but if you don't eat it then your a supporter of cruelty to animals.
JohnnyFlash wrote: » Shooting hares involves 'lamping', where fat men in wet gear shine high-powered torches to blind hares before blowing their heads off. For sport. Hare is a tough and sinewy meat.
harry Bailey esq wrote: » Lamping is not done with a firearm, it's done with lurcher dogs. Rabbits are the usual prize, not hares. The airport is full of hares, tame as f*ck too. You'd walk from the Maldron over to T2 any hour of the day and you'll spot a few.
A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: » This has already been answered, though. It is Mother Nature's own personal diktat that any growing population, which population competes for food resources, will eventually be faced with starvation. Why do you think Renard ever shook his head in resignation and strolled into Dublin? Nobody wants our wildlife to reach that point of overpopulation. It would arguably be cruel to allow an animal to starve instead humanely destroying it, just like you would a horse whose limb was fractured. The fox is a better example, since nobody breeds them. Urban foxes are entering a completely different ecosystem than that which exists in the countryside. The lack of biodiversity in urban regions means that foxes are living longer with various parasites and infestations than would ever happen in a natural setting. Its so much more complex than this daft (and completely false, ideological) notion that "it's cruel unless you eat it". Human beings are part of the ecosystem. If we are interested in preserving our ecosystem, then we must control both human activities, but also the overpopulation of certain other animal species, whether we eat those animals or not. We need to strike the right balance. We all want foxes in the countryside, we all want a sustainable environment. But we want and we need a sustainable population.
bodhrandude wrote: » I thought this thread was a reference to one of the spoken parts in On The Run from Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon.
topper75 wrote: » Wasn't that spoken by an Irish guy who was working around the studio during those sessions?
Greyfox wrote: » Grand as long as you eat what you kill but if you don't eat it then your a supporter of cruelty to animals. Also what if the shooter doesn't get a clean shot. Yes I know the reasons for hunting but that doesn't make it ok.
Eddie B wrote: » Very well put. A lot of people would rather believe that they do not interfere with wildlife populations, from human activities. Saying, nature will strike a balance if we just leave the animals be, sounds good, but this does not work. Our modern existence, continuously affect that balance. It is much easier to sleep at night, if you stick your head in the sand, and pretend that animals are like humans, and we will all live happily ever after, if people leave animals alone.
A community in west Kerry says a plague of rabbits in the local graveyard is causing distress among relatives of those buried there.
Deise Musashi wrote: » I have observed over the years that "Myxi" outbreaks often occurred locally to me, when large forestry plantings had been set. I'm not saying groups with an investment in forestry, such as Coillte, would have deliberately spread a disease to native wildlife, to prevent them eating the tips of the new growth forestry. It was fairly predictable when an outbreak might take place spontaneously though.
EmmetSpiceland wrote: » I believe there’s two “Irishmen” on the album. The door man and, guitarist, Henry McCullough who was recording with Wings.
Deise Musashi wrote: » The OP is ascribing the spread of disease to hunters / coursers, how do they know this is the root cause? I have observed over the years that "Myxi" outbreaks often occurred locally to me, when large forestry plantings had been set. I'm not saying groups with an investment in forestry, such as Coillte, would have deliberately spread a disease to native wildlife, to prevent them eating the tips of the new growth forestry. It was fairly predictable when an outbreak might take place spontaneously though.
Capt'n Midnight wrote: » https://www.rte.ie/news/munster/2019/0927/1078620-rabbits-graves-kerry/ OMG zombie rabbits :eek:
Graces7 wrote: » Not funny. A serious matter for all with family buried there. They are seeking a humane way to control this.
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