Ruraldweller56 wrote: » You tell me. I don't actually know the story. That's what I asked
Wesser wrote: » can someone explain to me what gemmas issue is with this ad. she doesnt like that lidl have featured a multiracial family. is that it. is it just that Gemma is a racist or is there something more complex i am missing here.
davedanon wrote: » No, his name is Mathis. The ad was part of a series involving 'The Ryans', ie the girl in the ad's parents. Her partner/husband is named Mathis. He was born in Liverpool.
alastair wrote: » The family is called the Ryan’s. He is the partner of the daughter.
Critiqued wrote: I agree with Gemma in this instance. Why did they have to lie about the chaps name? Could they not find an Irish man with an Irish name. Or is this a diversity ad?
Critiqued wrote: » I agree with Gemma in this instance. Why did they have to lie about the chaps name? Could they not find an Irish man with an Irish name. Or is this a diversity ad?
randd1 wrote: » She's a xenophobe. Actually, I think the best term to describe her is Ethnic Irish Supremacist. Doesn't like anything foreign does Gemma. Anything that isn't white, catholic Irish in origin is evil trying turn our country into a secular communist plutocracy, or some crap like that. So yeah, she's a good old, warped, crazy arsed, litigation threatening "if you call me a racist" racist. She's also a complete coward who refuses to even engage with anybody who dares question her and backs down fairly lively when someone threatens to counter-sue her for defamation
Overheal wrote: » Not using the real last name of real people you use in advertising seems like a pretty safe practice in general.
AtomicHorror wrote: » Also, happy to threaten legal action on a random middle-class couple with a young child, or random people on the street. Not so keen on suing a German multinational, despite them also publicly calling her a racist. A mean-spirited little bully, in short.
Critiqued wrote: » But in this case the real name was used for everyone except one person.
AtomicHorror wrote: » How did they lie? My partner does not share my surname, but my family is known by my surname. Are we lying because we chose to use that name collectively? Should the advert have said "The Ryan-and-Mathis Family"?
Critiqued wrote: » Nor do my partner and I share a surname but it would be pretty weird for people to refer to us the (wifes name) family. My kids have my name.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » I may be wrong this but i believe i have read that he is stepfather to the kids so the kids have her name. But irrespective of the family dynamics there was no reason to go on a racist rant.
randd1 wrote: » There is if you're a racist. As Gemma has shown herself to be.
boombang wrote: » I don't know if anybody has posted the article already. What horrible stuff. I hope this buries GOD.https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/couple-in-ad-campaign-left-shaking-and-fearful-after-online-abuse-1.4031549
Brussels Sprout wrote: » What is about seeing inter-racial couples (especially when it's the woman who's white and even more so again if she's attractive) that gets certain people so hot under the collar?
NickNickleby wrote: » Oh, there are certainly people out there who get particularly upset at having our pretty white women stolen by some black guy. As for the tweet, I think Gemma O'D was probably having a go at the morketing types who use various tropes to appeal to their audience, and she assumed the 'Ryan Family' was a contrived setup to make the ad more inclusive. It back-fired when it turns out they are a real mixed race couple. So, bear with me on this.... G O'D (great initials by the way) has a lash at the store/morketing guys - if the family was in truth a fiction, then there might be a question to be asked. BUT, they didn't have to invent this family, because there are many families like the Ryans in Ireland. So, she accused them of a fiction and got it wrong. The fact that its racial makes it controversial. But, I'm going with the 'attacking the fiction' argument for now - I know nothing about this woman and I only came into this thread after reading the times article this morning. What I think is truly awful, is that it seems the tweets that attached to G O'Ds tweet were particularly vile and nasty, and were not about the perceived contrived nature of the ad, but rather were attacking black people who have the temerity to live here and, horror of horrors, to start a family with one of our women. Hopefully it was confined to a handful of spiteful ignorant people, although I can imagine reading these ugly posts would be very upsetting for the people at whom they're aimed - and that's not just the Ryans is it? I would like to think that Ms Ryan and Mr Mathis can (and do) go about their business without encountering this crap in real life. I have never witnessed a racist jibe directed towards anyone and I've worked in a place with many different nationalities/races, my local shopping centre would have middle eastern, black and asian families doing their shopping there. And mixed, just like the Ryans. I truly believe that Irish people on the whole, are not racist. I also suspect that those who attack non white people are as likely to attack anyone at all, and the pretext for doing so is simply a justification in their own thuggish minds for their thuggish behaviour. They're not specifically racist or homophobic or anti-Brit or whatever, they're simply anti-social thugs. This is why I don't like Twitter. It kills me when RTE News reports about some "storm" on twitter.......I did a course up in DCU a few years back, and Twitter was being discussed as a contender for being a mainstream news source. All the young ones on the course were oohing and ahhing at this, and I asked "how can you seriously suggest that the equivalent of a wall full of graffiti can be considered as a reliable source of information?" . I was told that all forms of media are good, and like the rest Twitter will eventually bed down. Not by the tutor I might add.
padd b1975 wrote: » So why exactly were they referred to as 'The Ryans'?
Joeytheparrot wrote: » She doesnt like lidl because A She is a racist and they had a Black Man in the ad B She is a far right nationalist and doesnt lidl cause its German
NickNickleby wrote: » Oh, there are certainly people out there who get particularly upset at having our pretty white women stolen by some black guy.
Brussels Sprout wrote: » incels?
Gregor Samsa wrote: » I’m obviously changing the actual names here, but me, my wife and my kids all have different surnames. I’m Samsa, my wife is Macintosh, and the kids are Samsa Macintosh. If we were to appear on a similar poster and described as “the X family”, where X is either Samsa, Macintosh or Samsa Macintosh, it would be incorrect for at least one of us. There’s no correct way to refer to us as “the X family”. But it wouldn’t matter a shíte. Who cares what name they or we are described as collectively. It’s a complete and utter non-issue. Unless one is the kind of lunatic who’s worried that brown people are being made to look “normal” by giving them names not traditionally associated with brown people, which she seems to be.
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