CatInABox wrote: » Yes, this kind of thing is the only thing that they can do, but I can't see this making any difference at all. I suspect the real reasoning behind this isn't to actually make a difference, it's so that Irish Rail have something to point to and say that they're trying.
D.L.R. wrote: » gobshyte nation
LXFlyer wrote: » It’s also a way of making a point to the politicians.
CatInABox wrote: » The inevitable consequence of decades of next to zero investment in our rail service has finally come to fruition in an official way. Our peak hours Dart service is now so below capacity that they've had to set up a website encouraging people to stagger their morning commutes. How utterly depressing and how utterly predictable. The Irish Times have the report here. The actual website is peaktime.ie. Dart Expansion programme can't come soon enough.
blanch152 wrote: » They should eliminate free pass travel during commute times on the DART. It was done before, and there are alternatives.
Oasis_Dublin wrote: » The Greens are obviously pro-rail, but will never be a large enough party to really matter, in terms of directing the policy of a government.
Pete_Cavan wrote: » Experience from Metrolink shows that the Greens are anything but pro rail.
Oasis_Dublin wrote: » I'm out of the loop here, and I'm still not sure what you mean after some online searching. I know that Eamon Ryan disappeared into some mé-féin, looking after his own constituents-type politics, with his push from services out to Knocklyon. Was that anti-railways, or have I missed something?!
donvito99 wrote: » He put his seat ahead of an affordable, funded capacity upgrade of the Luas Green Line. He veiled this with unfunded, unplanned, nonsense, "everybody gets a Metro" type proposal which was hoovered up by the anti-bus connects/metro types who live 10mins walk from St Stephen's Green and love their luas service ('cause they use it off-peak no doubt). Shameless from a party that loves to talk about public transport.
Oasis_Dublin wrote: » On this point, is there a political party in Ireland that is in favour of trains? Fine Gael has pumped billions into road projects like the N11, Tuam Bypass, the N25 upgrade, N7 upgrade etc etc. Fianna Fáil obviously historically closed thousands of kilometres of line, and Fin Gael are merely continuing their motordom obsession. The Greens are obviously pro-rail, but will never be a large enough party to really matter, in terms of directing the policy of a government. Sinn Féin appear to be consistently down in the polls. but they possibly have the advantage of looking at things on an all-island basis. Like the Greens though, you'd be surprised to see them being very relevant when it comes to who will have the office of Taoiseach after the next election. So are to just have no hope, or where do we look?
Shedite27 wrote: » I know he went about it in a stupid way, but sayign "everyone should get rail" can't be seen as "anti rail". He's a nut job, yes, but not "anti rail"
Grandeeod wrote: » No political will from any party. I'll spare you a complete history and take up the story from the late 1990s. FF did what they did after the network was so shambolic, that money was there to make it safe. That's the network we have now. From the same regime we got, Dunboyne, Midleton and the WRC from Ennis to Athenry with the Greens fecked in at the latter stages. The Greens salivated over the WRC, while Dublin sunk under a network not fit for purpose. Then recession. Then a FG lead Government. Then a FG lead Government propped up. A bit of luas. MN cancelled and then reinvented. Metrolink. DU cancelled and DART expansion promoted instead. The wheel re-invented over and over. None of them will ever deliver anything but road projects. Next recession/downturn is on the horizon. It's being talked about. The chances are there for all to see. When it happens, kiss your ass goodbye to Metrolink and DART expansion. Wash. Rince. Repeat.
Oasis_Dublin wrote: » As I assumed so! So who should we vote for then? Or it basing upon a party's public transport policies a bit naive/hopeful?
Idbatterim wrote: » Do they even propose a refundable bottle tax here, the place is covered in them ?
salmocab wrote: » Really what he was saying is I don’t give a toss about public transport but here is s drawing done with crayons that goes all around the Southside but keeps my votes.
MrAbyss wrote: » I would even go as far as saying that Ryan is mentally ill. I know this is not the thing to say, but that south Dublin crayon episode and how he rationalized it was the behaviour of a mad man. He talked endless amounts of word salad to the point that it was clear he himself did not even know what he say saying. It was the political version of an insane person walking down the street shouting a conversation back at themselves. As far as I am concerned he is unfit to hold office. I am very serious when I say this.
Sam Russell wrote: » Mod: Can we eave politics to the politics forum, please. This is about Dart Expansion. , public figures deserve some respect (since they are not able to answer)
Idbatterim wrote: » yes ill drop it, but its hard not to bring politics into it, when it is purely political as to why this isnt either built or under construction...
spacetweek wrote: » There's so little progress on this project that I only check in on this thread every few months, but my word is it depressing. I'm worried that DART expansion is due to begin by 2021, but also Metrolink. This town ain't big enough for the both of those projects to be underway simultaneously, I'd wager.
Grandeeod wrote: » Wasting your time typing buddy. When those that display interest and knowledge in these projects accept and allow discussion about the political aspects, it may make things an election issue. It helps gain traction. 10 years from now I expect this thread and others to be discussing the latest spoof job with new posters, not wanting to accept the absolute reality of how it is in Ireland. We love crayons in Eire.:rolleyes:
