dont bother wrote: » then you ask "what is the point in being alive at all then"? you people are basically asking humans who are alive today to give up their own lives and give them to the future people who they will never meet. i dont care about people i wont meet. they certainly wont be in my family lineage directly. i dont care about the future generations. i couldnt give a flying sh!te about them. this big deal being made. what gives you the audacity to assume that you can "save the day" now when in 200 years when something MIGHT happen to occur because of our changing climate, that the people of the future are going to be somehow dumb to the whole thing? how come you think you are smarter than the people of the future? do you not think that they will be able to sort out their own mess IF they need to at the time, when it actually matters? they can move up to mountains. it's never going to be a sudden tidal wave of melted ice from the sea coming in to "get us". fvck the future people i say. i dont care about them at all we are alive NOW. i'm not giving up flying on planes, travelling and getting cheap clothes or food. i'm not giving irish farmers more money than i should for meat that should be cheaper. i'm not just going to blindly follow the bandwagon and pretend that it's a big crisis that needs to be solved now. fvck that, and fvck everyone saying "we need to do something" "we need action" - fvck that.
easypazz wrote: » I am not disagreeing with you entirely. Sooner or later there needs to be a cull from 8 billion back to 4 billion, Greta should enjoy her life instead of worrying about the people of the future, who need to be culled anyway.
gozunda wrote: » Always the nasty little personal digs 'Tell me how ' eh? Labeling anyone you do not agree with or doesnt like the greta dog and pony show as a 'denier' :eek: Well that is as about as pathetic as it goes in a discussion lol. But hey dont let that stop you. Keep at - everyone else is having a good laugh at that type of tripe anyway
Tell me how wrote: » Sorry to poke holes in your already floundering argument (or should be 'arguments' at this point). It's a discussion board. You might find Facebook or Twitter more to your liking where you can make blase statements and are less likely to be called on it.
easypazz wrote: » There is enough ice in Greenland alone to raise sea levels by 7metres. Nobody said it can rise by 2 metres indefinitely. The antartic has enough ice to raise levels by 60m.
BorneTobyWilde wrote: » Stupid question, if the sea levels are going to rise, can countries around the world not be pumping water from the sea daily to lower it ?
BarryD2 wrote: » Where did you pull that out of? If you took one square kilometre of sea and raised it 7 metres, you'd have an extra 7 million cubic metres of water. Since the oceans are joined and cover some 362 million square kms of the earths surface, you're telling us that all the ice of Greenland equates to 2.5 x 10 to the power of 15 cubic metres. Somehow or other I doubt you..
dont bother wrote: » you have serious issues
NIMAN wrote: » ... but people have the power at the end of the day. No-one is forcing us to buy Brazil's beef. Insist on Irish beef, even if its more expensive, and you'll soon see the supply of Brazilian beef slow or stop.
Tell me how wrote: » Ah, you're obviously new here. A simple misconception for someone just parachuting in to the conversation. Greta says believe the scientists. Greta references the IPCC report The IPCC report was generated by scientists from 120 countries.Is it clear now? (Go on, try the next iteration of your argument)
gozunda wrote: » Nothing you say has been clear tbh. At best it's pure mud. And the only person you've been parroting in this thread is greta greta - says this, greta says that, great is great or wtte. And greta apparently believes the end of civilisation is happening in exactly 10 years 3 months yada yada. So you may need to do a fair bit of work on the lack of logic in your posts.
Tell me how wrote: » We all do. And you are ignoring them.
Tell me how wrote: » Ok, maybe someone has access to your account because you have responded to posts of mine where I have specifically said the only message of Greta's which I am repeating is to 'Trust the scientists'.
ToBeFrank123 wrote: » People will always buy the cheapest beef in the shop and won't give a damn where it came from. The 99,000 tons allowed is likely only the opening gambit. Years from now, Irish farmers will be out of business while we ship all our beef from south America with all the environmental issues that come with it. These types of trade deals are disastrous for the environment.
dont bother wrote: » well then protest that irish beef should be cheaper. stop breathing out all that CO2
dont bother wrote: » why should we trust the scientists? who are you to dismiss the idea that a lot of them are being paid off to present these notions as fact?
BorneTobyWilde wrote: » You can turn water to a solid by adding a chemical? So why not pump trillions of litres daily from oceans and turn it to a solid.
dont bother wrote: » this greta worship is SO creepy. it's so fvcking weird. all these adult males idolising an apparent school-child.
ToBeFrank123 wrote: » Good luck with that. Clearly you haven't been watching the news the last few months! Importing beef from south America is a really really dumb idea but willingly embraced by EU leaders, which leads me to believe they are all really really dumb.
optogirl wrote: » How many is a lot? Because there's a LOT of them in agreement. Are they all being paid off and who benefits?
Tony EH wrote: » It's not half as creepy as the shitposting you've polluted the thread with.
Jimmy Garlic wrote: » Speak for yourself. What makes you think this planet is so important in the grand scheme of things? there are millions of other planets in the universe.
dont bother wrote: » oh i have noticed it, that's why i brought up the point?! everyone spouting nonsense about the environment etc etc... why arent they protesting against the things that get in the way of their apparent "solutions" then? why just harp on and on again and again about "we need to take action". take action then. lets see what ye are made of
gozunda wrote: » Ah hear now - You're repeating yourself ... Pity the only one apparently allowed to have any 'discussion' on this thread is you. You have effectively dominated the entire thread with your greta worship. Any other opinion is jumped on as heresy. But yeah I guess Twitter would suit that type of adoration better. More of a pedestal type platform there. Greta apparently doesnt listen to the scientists herself and believes that civilisation is going tits up in 10 years time. You pair might be better finding a desert island somewhere together.
