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Greta and the aristocrat sail the high seas to save the planet.

Jimmy Garlic

Climate saint Greta Trunburg is settling sail for UN climate talks in New York to demand that governments socially engineer and tax the little people into oblivion to save the planet. Accompanied by her film maker father who lives vicariously through her, a filthy rich aristocrat from Monaco and some German bloke the trip will no doubt vastly increase the wattage of her halo before she lectures us all about impending climate Armageddon in New York. Hopefully snaps from the trip will make it into Hello! Magazine.

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SafeSurfer

dont bother wrote: »

SafeSurfer wrote: »

I think you are being disingenuous by claiming national debt isn’t serviced through taxation.
It just undermines your credibility.

you dont have any credibility to begin with though

Excellent point. Nonetheless it doesn’t alter the fact that national debt is serviced through taxation.

KyussB

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Do you still believe that national debt isn’t serviced by the money raised through taxation?

Have a look at the link below. Here is a quote.

“Interest payments in 2017 were €5.8 billion. This was 10.3% of that years tax revenue”.

https://data.oireachtas.ie/ie/oireachtas/parliamentaryBudgetOffice/2018/2018-11-23_general-government-debt-key-issues-to-consider_en.pdf

You're taking a discussion I was having with another poster - not with you, another poster... - a discussion involving equating all government spending 1:1 with taxes, and me explaining how that is not how it works, and how debts are often rolled over instead of paid through taxation - and are deliberately reducing it into a statement I didn't say.

galwayllm

She talks like Stevie from Malcolm in the middle...

Can't take her serious at all(you know, because I'm not a lemming)... I tell you one thing, she give me a good laugh...

KyussB

dont bother wrote: »

you dont have any credibility to begin with though

In reference to Greta:

dont bother wrote: »

...
i dont believe she is 16. i believe she is an adult made out to be a child.
she has marionette lines ffs. women only get those in their 40s...

gozunda

KyussB wrote: »

Again proving my point about the 'Communism!' screeching - proving the disingenuousness of the people in this thread stating there are no 'solutions' presented - and then decrying all potential solutions as 'Communism!', even when there is no connection between the views presented, and that.Only Libertarians are so paranoid, that they spout conspiracy theories regarding Communism all the time - you pretty much never get this from anyone in Ireland - and these same posters have been backslapping those, who have been constantly citing climate change denial propaganda from right-wing Libertarian think-tanks, throughout the thread.

Many posters have pointed out the links to communism / socialism and your pet theory. Not just me. Theres no conspiracy. Dont like that? Tough.

And thats quite enough of your rabid theories and derailing the thread on greta in the US to talk about your personal vision of utopia. .

Not only am I pointing out that what you are writing is complete and utter horse manure - you can drop the personal attacks as well. This is from your previous comment...

KyussB wrote:

Nobody believes you or others are 'concerned' for her wellbeing, when you're backslapping the same posters using her being mentally ill, as a term of disparagement.

Yes I am indeed concerned. And whether you believe otherwise is none of your business. However you proving your lies should be - so go ahead and show each and everyone of the posts I allegedly "backslap" (sic) and agree the girl is "mentally ill". Link or get out and stay out.

Tbh your comments are pure fantasy at best and bear no relation to the topic of the thread . But the next personal attack like the above bull****e gets you reported faster than you can say "Green New Deal" - understand?

dont bother

KyussB wrote: »

In reference to Greta:

tell me exactly how this is less credible than the sh!te from greta and her followers?

The world is going to explode
the end of the world is coming
women should be forced to get abortions to stop the world ending

why is my belief any less credible than the bat-sh!t crazy beliefs of the climate lemmings???

because you want to try discredit my opinion?

l0ser

Will I Am Not

The abuse of anyone that questions the motives behind this is bizarre. Climate change denier, greyhead, alt-right, fascist... “it’s an attack on your masculinity” was the best one I’ve heard :pac:

Are people talking like this in real life? Doubt it.

weldoninhio

Will I Am Not wrote: »

The abuse of anyone that questions the motives behind this is bizarre. Climate change denier, greyhead, alt-right, fascist... “it’s an attack on your masculinity” was the best one I’ve heard :pac:

Are people talking like this in real life? Doubt it.

Its crazy, the same people saying that science is infallible, are the ones that would be in another thread denying xy and xx chromosomes and saying a boy can be a girl if he wants and vice versa.

KyussB

gozunda wrote: »

Many posters have pointed out the links to communism / socialism and your pet theory. Not just me. Theres no conspiracy. Dont like that? Tough.

And thats quite enough of your rabid theories and derailing the thread to talk about your personal vision of utopia. .

Not only am I pointing out that what you are writing is complete and utter horse manure - you can drop the personal attacks as well. This is from your previous comment...

Yes I am indeed concerned. And whether you believe otherwise is none of your business. However you proving your lies should be - so go ahead and show each and everyone of the posts I allegedly "backslap" (sic) saying the girl is "mentally ill". Link or get out and stay out.

Tbh your comments are pure fantasy at best and bear no relation to the topic of the thread . But the next personal attack like the above bull****e gets you reported faster than you can say "Green New Deal" - understand?

This guy thinks Bernie Sanders, AOC, and much of the Green New Deal supporting Democratic Party in the US are Communists, lads.

This is the level of idiocy deployed to block discussion of solutions.

Here is this poster - who is so 'concerned' for Greta's wellbeing - backslapping a post labelling Greta as having 'assburgers':
https://i.imgur.com/rTdQLsd.jpg
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111099385&postcount=1726

You try to direct what people discuss in the thread, telling people to 'get back on topic' etc. whenever they say anything you disagree with - so go ahead and report this post, it'll land on you.

I would be very surprised if the report post system has not been abused several times, by you and others, against me - especially when there was the earlier browbeating way back, with a ton of posters piling on with screeching accusations of 'Communism!'.

Thelonious Monk

weldoninhio wrote: »

Its crazy, the same people saying that science is infallible, are the ones that would be in another thread denying xy and xx chromosomes and saying a boy can be a girl if he wants and vice versa.

Why do you assume this? I think all that trans stuff is nonsense, I just don't give it much thought as it doesn't affect me and never will.
I've also never been to Bali on a yoga retreat. And I don't eat quinoa.

Will I Am Not

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Why do you assume this? I think all that trans stuff is nonsense, I just don't give it much thought as it doesn't affect me and never will.
I've also never been to Bali on a yoga retreat. And I don't eat quinoa.

Probably the same kind of way that anyone that questions a little girl with Aspergers is assumed to be an old, grey, gammon faced, Trump supporting racist

Thelonious Monk

Will I Am Not wrote: »

Probably the same kind of way that anyone that questions a little girl with Aspergers is assumed to be an old, grey, gammon faced, Trump supporting racist

Well actually weldinho or whatever is pro Trump and he is very vocal on immigration and dole scroungers on these forums too, lol.

[Deleted User]

I think Greta is sincere and believes what she says, well because she is actually right on the best evidence we have.

And no, I don't believe "gender is a social construct" or any of that pseudoscientific psychobabble either.

What worries me is the army of hangers on who are using her message as part of a wider "social justice" or other political ideological message.

For example we need nuclear and lots of it - the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation have already developed a much cleaner and safer reactor but the same people supporting Greta are dead against it, yet it is one of the only feasible solutions. China was going to start building lots of them but Trump's trade war put an end to that, stopping them giving the Chinese the technology.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a25728221/terrapower-china-bill-gates-trump/

Thelonious Monk

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/climate-change-severely-damaging-world-s-oceans-un-report-warns-1.4029859

More lies from scientists in a new UN report

weldoninhio

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/climate-change-severely-damaging-world-s-oceans-un-report-warns-1.4029859

More lies from scientists in a new UN report

"IPCC predicts" - wonder if they can predict the lotto numbers. :rolleyes:

Thelonious Monk

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2211366-china-is-on-track-to-meet-its-climate-change-goals-nine-years-early/

Oh for all you but what about China people, they're doing pretty well, see above. I was watching something about how much money they're putting into solar power the other day, and I believe they'll be world leaders in renewable energy and cleaning up their act as time goes on, because they get sh*t done.

What is Ireland doing? Opening up boglands to extraction again, great work lads.

Thelonious Monk

weldoninhio wrote: »

"IPCC predicts" - wonder if they can predict the lotto numbers. :rolleyes:

I suppose you don't watch weather forecasts either? Sure how would those idiot pink haired snowflake scientists be able to predict anything?

Ash.J.Williams

dont bother wrote: »

god only knows.
one thing's for sure - something is definitely OFF with it all.
it's very cloak and dagger conspiracy theory territory.

like any famous "stars" - they're all there to push some agenda.
this creepy fully grown adult posing as a child "greta" is just the face of this climate change nonsense.

they obviously wanted a "child", and one with a condition such as aspergers say, so that people on the oppositiion would feel less inclined to argue in a manner that they normally would.

it's ridiculously obvious.

now you have all the naive ignorant fools following every word of it - why?
cos they see "celebrities" like leonardo di caprio and rita ora putting gretas image on instagram and telling braindead masses to "get behind it" when in reality, they're told by their handlers to do this, as it pushes the agenda more.

it's a sick sad world we inhabit, and it wouldnt bother me in the slightest if it exploded in 11 years like all these nutjobs are saying

what a strange post

begsbyOnaTrain

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

What is Ireland doing? Opening up boglands to extraction again, great work lads.

True. We should have some GMIT lads do a study that says we **could** meet our commitments early **if** a bunch of stuff from 2000 to 2016 continues to play out (no reason why really) and if we exclude a bunch of cities/areas from the study because they don't match up with the result headline we wanted.

gozunda

KyussB wrote: »

This guy thinks Bernie Sanders, AOC, and much of the Green New Deal supporting Democratic Party in the US are Communists, lads.This is the level of idiocy deployed to block discussion of solutions.
Here is this poster - who is so 'concerned' for Greta's wellbeing - backslapping a post labelling Greta as having 'assburgers':
https://i.imgur.com/rTdQLsd.jpg
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111099385&postcount=1726
You try to direct what people discuss in the thread, telling people to 'get back on topic' etc. whenever they say anything you disagree with - so go ahead and report this post, it'll land on you.I would be very surprised if the report post system has not been abused several times, by you and others, against me - especially when there was the earlier browbeating way back, with a ton of posters piling on with screeching accusations of 'Communism!'.

Again ignoring the fact that it was the UK socialist party who claimed AOC and the US GND supporters as fellow socialists?.
https://m.socialistparty.org.uk/articles/29174/29-05-2019/the-green-new-deal-we-need-is-socialism[. Do get with what has been posted. And drop the tripe. No one Is listening.

So you couldnt find the post you claimed where I back slaped supposedly agreeing the girl was "mentally Ill" No? Cant find it? Still making ****e up? Btw here is you infering another poster is "Mentally unhinged" - more personal type abuse from you. Truely pathetic.
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111335898&postcount=3401

But yeah - 'Level of idiocy' is right for sure. You are just so desperate to throw ****e - that's the best you can do lol... The poster you link to was replying to your previously deranged post. They got a tick for pointing out "Where's all the money going to come from, and where's all the electricity going to come from". Again a complete lack of comprehension. I also note he misspelled aspergers but was correct - she is scared by her doomsday beliefs. Btw you do know the child has aspergers yes? That she states same on her Twitter profile and regularly talks about it yes?

You really are the gift that keeps giving lol. Sure It's all a big conspiracy against you and your pet theory. But with supporters like you the climate is well and truely fuked ...

Dr. Bre

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2211366-china-is-on-track-to-meet-its-climate-change-goals-nine-years-early/

Oh for all you but what about China people, they're doing pretty well, see above. I was watching something about how much money they're putting into solar power the other day, and I believe they'll be world leaders in renewable energy and cleaning up their act as time goes on, because they get sh*t done.

What is Ireland doing? Opening up boglands to extraction again, great work lads.

A great bunch of lads?

gozunda

Dr. Bre wrote: »

A great bunch of lads?

Yeah they sure are. Not only are they investing heavily in commissioning new coal fired power plants- they are also manufacturing all those solar panels and other green energy consumables using coal power - isnt that just wonderful? And we marvel that they are "world leaders in renewable energy" - they sure are and laughing all the way to the bank with the profits flogging this stuff to the west...

And if you cant beat that - not only are they continuing to build hundreds of new coal fire power plants - they are providing the hardware and expertise for a whole bunch of other countries in Africa and elsewhere to also build brand new coal fired power plants - at a nice cost of course. But as you said a great bunch of lads.

Funny that although been a great bunch of lads! though China had the highest emissions of greenhouse gases in the world and climbing whilst their per capita emissions are at or above the EU average.

Couldnt make it up eh?

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/29/716347646/why-is-china-placing-a-global-bet-on-coal

Overheal

Veritas Libertas wrote: »

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Mongfinder General wrote: »

Saw her speak today for the first time, narky little cow. She reminds me of veruca salt.

begsbyOnaTrain

gozunda wrote: »

Couldnt make it up eh?

Well they made up that report that said they're doing great altogether.

NIMAN

I have read enough to know that climate and atmospheric conditions on Earth are measured over hundreds of thousands and even millions of years.

Not 12.

The human race are but a blip in history. The Earth and humans will be here in 12, 100, 1000 years time. Will the Earth be different? Very likely, but barring an asteroid strike the end of mankind is a long, long way away.

Things will change, maybe millions might die, but the Earth will survive.

suicide_circus

gozunda

begsbyOnaTrain wrote: »

Well they made up that report that said they're doing great altogether.

I dont disagree - they are making a fortune out flogging green energy consumables whilst merrily burning as much coal as possible.

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/29/716347646/why-is-china-placing-a-global-bet-on-coal

begsbyOnaTrain

gozunda wrote: »

I dont disagree - they are making a fortune out flogging green energy consumables whilst merrily burning as much coal as possible.

Whats for sure China ain't about to ratify any climate convention any time soon

Just wait until Greta tears into them... Then they'll bend the knee... She'll do it. Anyday now...

dont bother

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

what a strange post

elaborate please

dont bother

Will I Am Not wrote: »

Probably the same kind of way that anyone that questions a little girl with Aspergers is assumed to be an old, grey, gammon faced, Trump supporting racist

even if someone is old grey gammon faced and supports trump, that still doesnt make you "right" about anything.

people only say sh!t like that because they dont think for themselves and just follow the herd opinion,.