Thelonious Monk wrote: » What is Ireland doing? Opening up boglands to extraction again, great work lads.
dont bother wrote: » god only knows. one thing's for sure - something is definitely OFF with it all. it's very cloak and dagger conspiracy theory territory. like any famous "stars" - they're all there to push some agenda. this creepy fully grown adult posing as a child "greta" is just the face of this climate change nonsense. they obviously wanted a "child", and one with a condition such as aspergers say, so that people on the oppositiion would feel less inclined to argue in a manner that they normally would. it's ridiculously obvious. now you have all the naive ignorant fools following every word of it - why? cos they see "celebrities" like leonardo di caprio and rita ora putting gretas image on instagram and telling braindead masses to "get behind it" when in reality, they're told by their handlers to do this, as it pushes the agenda more. it's a sick sad world we inhabit, and it wouldnt bother me in the slightest if it exploded in 11 years like all these nutjobs are saying
weldoninhio wrote: » "IPCC predicts" - wonder if they can predict the lotto numbers. :rolleyes:
Thelonious Monk wrote: » https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/climate-change-severely-damaging-world-s-oceans-un-report-warns-1.4029859 More lies from scientists in a new UN report
Will I Am Not wrote: » Probably the same kind of way that anyone that questions a little girl with Aspergers is assumed to be an old, grey, gammon faced, Trump supporting racist
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Why do you assume this? I think all that trans stuff is nonsense, I just don't give it much thought as it doesn't affect me and never will. I've also never been to Bali on a yoga retreat. And I don't eat quinoa.
weldoninhio wrote: » Its crazy, the same people saying that science is infallible, are the ones that would be in another thread denying xy and xx chromosomes and saying a boy can be a girl if he wants and vice versa.
gozunda wrote: » Many posters have pointed out the links to communism / socialism and your pet theory. Not just me. Theres no conspiracy. Dont like that? Tough. And thats quite enough of your rabid theories and derailing the thread to talk about your personal vision of utopia. . Not only am I pointing out that what you are writing is complete and utter horse manure - you can drop the personal attacks as well. This is from your previous comment... Yes I am indeed concerned. And whether you believe otherwise is none of your business. However you proving your lies should be - so go ahead and show each and everyone of the posts I allegedly "backslap" (sic) saying the girl is "mentally ill". Link or get out and stay out. Tbh your comments are pure fantasy at best and bear no relation to the topic of the thread . But the next personal attack like the above bull****e gets you reported faster than you can say "Green New Deal" - understand?
Will I Am Not wrote: » The abuse of anyone that questions the motives behind this is bizarre. Climate change denier, greyhead, alt-right, fascist... “it’s an attack on your masculinity” was the best one I’ve heard :pac: Are people talking like this in real life? Doubt it.
KyussB wrote: » In reference to Greta:
KyussB wrote: » Again proving my point about the 'Communism!' screeching - proving the disingenuousness of the people in this thread stating there are no 'solutions' presented - and then decrying all potential solutions as 'Communism!', even when there is no connection between the views presented, and that.Only Libertarians are so paranoid, that they spout conspiracy theories regarding Communism all the time - you pretty much never get this from anyone in Ireland - and these same posters have been backslapping those, who have been constantly citing climate change denial propaganda from right-wing Libertarian think-tanks, throughout the thread.
KyussB wrote: Nobody believes you or others are 'concerned' for her wellbeing, when you're backslapping the same posters using her being mentally ill, as a term of disparagement.
dont bother wrote: » you dont have any credibility to begin with though
dont bother wrote: » ...i dont believe she is 16. i believe she is an adult made out to be a child. she has marionette lines ffs. women only get those in their 40s...
SafeSurfer wrote: » Do you still believe that national debt isn’t serviced by the money raised through taxation? Have a look at the link below. Here is a quote. “Interest payments in 2017 were €5.8 billion. This was 10.3% of that years tax revenue”.https://data.oireachtas.ie/ie/oireachtas/parliamentaryBudgetOffice/2018/2018-11-23_general-government-debt-key-issues-to-consider_en.pdf
dont bother wrote: » SafeSurfer wrote: » I think you are being disingenuous by claiming national debt isn’t serviced through taxation. It just undermines your credibility. you dont have any credibility to begin with though
SafeSurfer wrote: » I think you are being disingenuous by claiming national debt isn’t serviced through taxation. It just undermines your credibility.
Dakota Dan wrote: » I reckon that she’s a demon from the dark side after possessing a child’s body.
KyussB wrote: » gozunda wrote: » Was I indeed lol. Thats your funniest contribution to date. You may recall that I and many others pointed out what your daft "solution' (singular) of the great "Green New Deal" (sic) has many of the signatures of communism and is even backed and claimed by socialists. Forgot that much already eh? Sadly you have been wittering on about the GND non-stop for most of the thread. So just in case you missed it - the thread is about greta in the new world and not your vision of some daft socialist republic where you believe money grows on trees and is free for the picking. Where collectivised labour and absolute state control are the order of the day. The best I can suggest is if you really dont like the current system here or anywhere else - then go to somewhere that runs a system as close as possible to your GND - maybe like Cuba. You can post on boards how that works out for you. Rather than boring the rest of us to tears. "Nobody" lol. You mean you?? But back to the topic in hand. Greta - yes put a child up as a figure head and anyone who voices any criticism of what is being said or done and bang your opposition is morally suspect. A tactic as transparent as a sheet of very transparent and non recyclable flimsy plastic... Again proving my point about the 'Communism!' screeching - proving the disingenuousness of the people in this thread stating there are no 'solutions' presented - and then decrying all potential solutions as 'Communism!', even when there is no connection between the views presented, and that. Only Libertarians are so paranoid, that they spout conspiracy theories regarding Communism all the time - you pretty much never get this from anyone in Ireland - and these same posters have been backslapping those, who have been constantly citing climate change denial propaganda from right-wing Libertarian think-tanks, throughout the thread.
gozunda wrote: » Was I indeed lol. Thats your funniest contribution to date. You may recall that I and many others pointed out what your daft "solution' (singular) of the great "Green New Deal" (sic) has many of the signatures of communism and is even backed and claimed by socialists. Forgot that much already eh? Sadly you have been wittering on about the GND non-stop for most of the thread. So just in case you missed it - the thread is about greta in the new world and not your vision of some daft socialist republic where you believe money grows on trees and is free for the picking. Where collectivised labour and absolute state control are the order of the day. The best I can suggest is if you really dont like the current system here or anywhere else - then go to somewhere that runs a system as close as possible to your GND - maybe like Cuba. You can post on boards how that works out for you. Rather than boring the rest of us to tears. "Nobody" lol. You mean you?? But back to the topic in hand. Greta - yes put a child up as a figure head and anyone who voices any criticism of what is being said or done and bang your opposition is morally suspect. A tactic as transparent as a sheet of very transparent and non recyclable flimsy plastic...
KyussB wrote: » We've already reached a tipping point where we can not avoid damage from climate change - no matter how badly we continue to worsen climate change, there is always a point in stopping and reversing that - of courseThe reason we need to immediately arrest our contribution to climate change, is that there is a great risk of us triggering further natural tipping points that will accelerate climate change even faster than our own contribution.Things like melting the ice sheets, melting permafrost which releases enormous amounts of methane, disrupting the balance of carbon absorbed by the oceans etc. - there are a bunch of different positive feedback loops, which can end up significantly contributing to climate change in addition to our own changes - if we allow things to be pushed much further.The general consequences for failing to arrest these things, in the long term, are issues like water shortages for many parts of the world, desertification and removal of useful cropland - which will have knock on effects on food production for the world, obviously the availability of water - and with that comes a lot of political destabilization and likely wars over resources in areas of the world affected by all of this.In general, there's a very significant risk that world agricultural production simply won't be able to keep up adequate food production as climate change worsens - we're also likely going to have a lot more people on the planet than today as well - so, work out the consequences of those two things put together...
begsbyOnaTrain wrote: » It must be quite the mental strain for all the folks who believe we're 12 years from doomsday. I dunno what I'd do if that were me.
KyussB wrote: » gozunda wrote: » Thats the thing - the majority are not directly "attacking" anyone. That many are genuinely concerned for the wellbeing of greta and have voiced this is good. But it is informing indeed to see that charge levied against any criticism whether that relates to the validity of what is being said or the evident dog and pony show that goes along with this whole debacle. The old 'attack' accusation is simply used to try and shut every other opinion down on the basis 'because she is a child!' Those who should face disappropriation are the adults who have put the 'child' in this position and and are attempting to use her presence to silence any criticism. Shame on them. You were shouting down actual plans/solutions to resolving climate change issue earlier in this thread, by screeching 'Communism!' all the time - to shut down discussion pretty much. Nobody believes you or others are 'concerned' for her wellbeing, when you're backslapping the same posters using her being mentally ill, as a term of disparagement. It's visible that you fully know yourself, that you have no 'concern' for her - given how the faux nature of it is obvious to just about anyone regularly following the thread - and it shows that your posts are not in good faith and not genuine, that you're pushing a talking point without giving a toss about whether it's true or not.
gozunda wrote: » Thats the thing - the majority are not directly "attacking" anyone. That many are genuinely concerned for the wellbeing of greta and have voiced this is good. But it is informing indeed to see that charge levied against any criticism whether that relates to the validity of what is being said or the evident dog and pony show that goes along with this whole debacle. The old 'attack' accusation is simply used to try and shut every other opinion down on the basis 'because she is a child!' Those who should face disappropriation are the adults who have put the 'child' in this position and and are attempting to use her presence to silence any criticism. Shame on them.
begsbyOnaTrain wrote: » I think the biggest challenge to electrical vehicle adoption is the national grid and infrastructure. We'd need a lot more power on tap for 1 million (?) cars per day sucking down the juice. And Johnny isn't going to hang an extension cord out his window down to the street overnight to power the Yaris.
KyussB wrote: » You were shouting down actual plans/solutions to resolving climate change issue earlier in this thread, by screeching 'Communism!' all the time - to shut down discussion pretty much.Nobody believes you or others are 'concerned' for her wellbeing, when you're backslapping the same posters using her being mentally ill, as a term of disparagement. It's visible that you fully know yourself, that you have no 'concern' for her - given how the faux nature of it is obvious to just about anyone regularly following the thread - and it shows that your posts are not in good faith and not genuine, that you're pushing a talking point without giving a toss about whether it's true or not.
dont bother wrote: » that is LITERALLY the exact thing that's happening. it's part of the new world order. same as brexit and Trump being in power. it's all money for the rich, and the poor will do the bidding. i've said it already, and it's nothing to do with her aspergers - this person Greta, is NOT A CHILD. it is a fully grown 40+ year old woman posing as a child so that people dont argue. it is an effective means to MAKE people listen, as when it's a "child" doing the lecturing, then nobody wants to be seen to argue with them. GRETA IS A 40 YEAR OLD WOMAN.
begsbyOnaTrain wrote: » Yeah I'm sure she would get a big round of applause lecturing the People's Congress in China about how ashamed they should be for stealing her childhood
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