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N25/N30 - New Ross Bypass [open to traffic]

King Kelly

This week's local papers have the listings of CPO's for the New Ross bypass so some relief in prospect at the bridge in town.

Are their any images of the new river crossing available? I'm told it will be the highest bridge in Ireland. True? Where it's due to join the Waterford road at Glenmore is certainly a high point.

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josip

CoBo55 wrote: »

Over crest 10, flat out on the straight, left 20 followed by sharp right... Did you enjoy the rally?

I suspect I'd be an "Oh dear god" kind of person if I ever got close to a real rally car.
But there's a little part of me that misses some of the bends on the old N11/N30 sections.

https://goo.gl/maps/ec8rvR3ojQiD35ZT9
https://goo.gl/maps/xZRyWCixyxGceZiu9

I don't miss having to drive through Arklow though, with or without the shortcut and I very much appreciate the greater safety that comes with the motorway.
It's a massive improvement over the last 30 years.

CoBo55

josip wrote: »

I suspect I'd be an "Oh dear god" kind of person if I ever got close to a real rally car.
But there's a little part of me that misses some of the bends on the old N11/N30 sections.

https://goo.gl/maps/ec8rvR3ojQiD35ZT9
https://goo.gl/maps/xZRyWCixyxGceZiu9

I don't miss having to drive through Arklow though, with or without the shortcut and I very much appreciate the greater safety that comes with the motorway.
It's a massive improvement over the last 30 years.

Would love to give it a lash all the same! The old road from Ross to Waterford along the Barrow was lovely, snaking through the two railway bridges, you wouldn't want to be in a hurry though..

m17

The barrow crossing 18/09/19 sunrise this morning (pic fb)

Gardner

anyone hear of a major accident on Site in the past week or 2? major fall from heights by a piece of plant?

chooseusername

m17 wrote: »

The barrow crossing 18/09/19 sunrise this morning (pic fb)

Some photo.
Wouldn't it be something if it aligned with the rising and setting sun on the
equinoxes ,the autumn one is on Monday I believe.

serfboard

chooseusername wrote: »

Wouldn't it be something if it aligned with the rising and setting sun on the equinoxes

It's those kind of accidents that give Newgrange its undeserved reputation

skodacb

As of this morning from near JFK homestead

m17

The barrow crossing August 19 (pics n25newross website)

jelutong

“Crumbling concrete delays finish of Ireland’s longest bridge” . Article in Today’s Irish Times.

RadioRetro

jelutong wrote: »

“Crumbling concrete delays finish of Ireland’s longest bridge” . Article in Today’s Irish Times.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/crumbling-concrete-delays-finish-of-ireland-s-longest-bridge-1.4029146?localLinksEnabled=false

m17

The barrow crossing 24/09/19 (pic Irish times)

josip

The bridge status shown in https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111335065&postcount=1899 had me wondering about the temporary piers.
In that diagram they're showing as no longer in contact with the deck and I was curious if they were being dismantled or not quite the same in reality.

The Kilkenny side one isn't being dismantled, but there's a clear gap between it and the deck. Would that have opened up when the cables were being tensioned and the bridge deck was pulled up?

(pillar on the right)

While I was there, a bit of brutalism

and less brutal

road_high

Saw on KCLR some County Cllr say it won't open until new year thnaks to the problems in the structure?
God be with the days when roads projects in this country came in well ahead of schedule.

marno21

road_high wrote: »

Saw on KCLR some County Cllr say it won't open until new year thnaks to the problems in the structure?
God be with the days when roads projects in this country came in well ahead of schedule.

The Enniscorthy bypass came in on time. This project has a large non standard component which caused delays, which is excusable. It’s far from a bog standard road project

m17

The barrow crossing 29/09/19 (pic twitter )

CoBo55

road_high wrote: »

Saw on KCLR some County Cllr say it won't open until new year thnaks to the problems in the structure?
God be with the days when roads projects in this country came in well ahead of schedule.

The roads to the bridge are all done. Would you be happier if they rushed the inspection and it collapsed 6 months later? It's a huge engineering project that has to be perfect, if that means delays so be it.

Andrew33

CoBo55 wrote: »

The roads to the bridge are all done. Would you be happier if they rushed the inspection and it collapsed 6 months later? It's a huge engineering project that has to be perfect, if that means delays so be it.

Hard to put to much faith in what the media are saying but having spoken to some locals who’ve worked on the bridge, this is a serious issue that should NOT have happened!
Half a billion euro and they didn’t pour some of the concrete properly!
Heads should roll.

CoBo55

Andrew33 wrote: »

Hard to put to much faith in what the media are saying but having spoken to some locals who’ve worked on the bridge, this is a serious issue that should NOT have happened!
Half a billion euro and they didn’t pour some of the concrete properly!
Heads should roll.

In how many tons of concrete poured? Dial down the faux outrage, it's a bloody bridge...

Andrew33

CoBo55 wrote: »

In how many tons of concrete poured? Dial down the faux outrage, it's a bloody bridge...

It’s not faux outrage.
It was hardly an untested, untried method of construction.
As to your “it’s a bloody bridge” comment.
Care to elaborate on that?
The French can build a bridge (same cable stay design and construction method) over a thousand feet high, the Chinese can build a bridge 34 miles long (same cable stay design and construction method) without any concrete issues so why the f*#k should a bridge here have problems?
It’s a tried and tested method of building bridges!
There has got to be accountability.

JohnC.

I think you will find there are occasional problems in other countries too. Maybe stop posting as if everywhere else is perfect and an error can only happen here.

Sam Russell

JohnC. wrote: »

I think you will find there are occasional problems in other countries too. Maybe stop posting as if everywhere else is perfect and an error can only happen here.

It is not as if Crossrail in London or the Berlin Airport are projects without problems.

Andrew33

JohnC. wrote: »

I think you will find there are occasional problems in other countries too. Maybe stop posting as if everywhere else is perfect and an error can only happen here.

I’m not posting as if other countries projects don’t have issues, I’m not a Paddy knocker, I’m extremely proud of this country and the people who live, work and die here (and I don’t care where they’re from!) and the projects that get done etc etc but this is something that should not have happened. Simples.

Andrew33

Sam Russell wrote: »

It is not as if Crossrail in London or the Berlin Airport are projects without problems.

Hahaha Berlin airport fire alarm issues, not comparable to RFK bridge.

NedNew2

Andrew33 wrote: »

The French can build a bridge (same cable stay design and construction method) over a thousand feet high, the Chinese can build a bridge 34 miles long (same cable stay design and construction method) without any concrete issues.

A constructive criticism is less effective when conveyed in units of measurement that only my grandfather still uses.

Andrew33

NedNew2 wrote: »

A constructive criticism is less effective when conveyed in units of measurement that only my grandfather still uses.

Quite a lot of people can easily deal with various units of measurement.
Obviously beyond your grasp.
Very easy to convert into units you’re familiar with.
The French bridge is approximately 13,200 jelly babys or 36.900 LEGO studs high.
Hope this helps.

Sam Russell

Andrew33 wrote: »

Hahaha Berlin airport fire alarm issues, not comparable to RFK bridge.

The projected cost of the Berlin airport was €2bn but is currently at €7.2 bn, due to open in 2011, and unlikely to open before 2021, if then, if ever.

No, not a bit comparable to RFK bridge - a bit of poor pouring of concrete, and a month or so delay.

Andrew33

Sam Russell wrote: »

The projected cost of the Berlin airport was €2bn but is currently at €7.2 bn, due to open in 2011, and unlikely to open before 2021, if then, if ever.

No, not a bit comparable to RFK bridge - a bit of poor pouring of concrete, and a month or so delay.

New Berlin Airport will never open in it’s current form, most likely it’ll be bulldozed.

jelutong

The concrete is crumbling in one the pillars. It’s a major problem.

Azatadine

jelutong wrote: »

The concrete is crumbling in one the pillars. It’s a major problem.

Is it like, a huge problem that will take months and months to remedy or remedial work over a few weeks? It does seem a pretty basic thing to go so wrong though.