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Man drowns proposing to girlfriend

Akabusi

An American man has drowned in Tanzania whilst freediving to propose to his girlfriend. It is not the fact that he drowned doing something stupid that sticks in my mind, it is, did he have to spend extra time underwater whilst she maybe had to go fetch the phone, unlock it and video the whole thing. Then what is really bizarre and shows you how sick society is today, she still puts the video up on Facebook.

https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2019/0923/1077588-proposal-tanzania/

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Gregor Samsa

AMKC wrote: »

Why the hell did he not wear a snorkel mask. Very sad but he should have planned it better.

He did wear a mask.

If you mean a snorkel, they're only a few inches long, so the only place you can use them is at the surface. So he wouldn't have fared any better if you planned it for him.

begsbyOnaTrain

The Tetrarch wrote: »

Underwater hotel room! Why?

That's where we'll all be living to escape climate change.

I remember all the excitement and nerves when I proposed, so sad for the guy. And am totally weirded out by the woman's reaction.

Noo

At the end of the video it looks like hes near enough to the surface, and seems to heading back up without any distress. Just seems so odd that he managed to drown in those few seconds.

jiltloop

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Did he go drown on one knee?

Oh that's good!

Gregor Samsa

Noo wrote: »

At the end of the video it looks like hes near enough to the surface, and seems to heading back up without any distress. Just seems so odd that he managed to drown in those few seconds.

Obviously we don't know the full details yet, but there's a couple of potential things that can cause you to blackout in shallow water, which obviously gives you the risk of drowning.

An ascent blackout, or deep water blackout, is a loss of consciousness caused by cerebral hypoxia on ascending from a deep freedive or breath-hold dive, typically of ten metres or more when the swimmer does not necessarily experience an urgent need to breathe and has no other obvious medical condition that might have caused it. Victims typically black out close to the surface, usually within the top three metres, sometimes even as they break surface and have often been seen to approach the surface without apparent distress only to sink away.

Otherwise unexplained blackouts underwater have been associated with the practice of hyperventilation. Survivors of shallow water blackouts often report using hyperventilation as a technique to increase the time they can spend underwater. Hyperventilation, or over-breathing, involves breathing faster and/or deeper than the body naturally demands and is often used by divers in the mistaken belief that this will increase oxygen saturation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freediving_blackout

Varik

Noo wrote: »

At the end of the video it looks like hes near enough to the surface, and seems to heading back up without any distress. Just seems so odd that he managed to drown in those few seconds.

It's very weird. He leaves frame, and then after a bit she goes up to meet him and he's not there. Something must have additional must have happened, he was so close to the surface.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

I know people will probably focus on how stupid he was, but I just find it really sad.

jiltloop

I do find this story very sad but there's also a side of me that has such disdain for this need to push the boundaries for the sake of a some uploads to social media. Would he have proposed that way if there was no means to capture it on a phone camera and show off to thousands of followers on social media? I'm guessing not.

What an utterly stupid and pointless death.

kingtut

Really amazes me how many people seem to give 0 fcuks about someone's life.
A guy died and people laugh and joke? I know it's After hours but that is fairly scummy! How would you like it if you died and we all had a laugh at your expense? :mad:

randd1

kingtut wrote: »

Really amazes me how many people seem to give 0 fcuks about someone's life.
A guy died and people laugh and joke? I know it's After hours but that is fairly scummy! How would you like it if you died and we all had a laugh at your expense? :mad:

Given that he died in the middle of a stunt in a body of water he wasn't familiar with which was intended to show off for the camera, and his lady friend then proceeded to plaster it all over the web, a few rough jokes on this forum aren't going to add much to the absurdity of the whole thing.

It's akin to a lad climbing holding a piece of sheet metal in one hand and a selfie stick in the other right next to a tall structure in the hope of getting a picture of some lightning who then gets zapped and killed.

In the end, it was an attention seeking stunt gone horribly wrong.

CrankyHaus

Poor chap.
Tbh 10 m depth and 250 m from the shore is not trivial, even for experienced swimmers.

Always respect the water, even if it means you have to forgo a few social media likes.

murphyebass

Duane Dibbley wrote: »

I can’t find the comical aspect of this story

You may be in the wrong forum.

kingtut

randd1 wrote: »

Given that he died in the middle of a stunt in a body of water he wasn't familiar with which was intended to show off for the camera, and his lady friend then proceeded to plaster it all over the web, a few rough jokes on this forum aren't going to add much to the absurdity of the whole thing.

It's akin to a lad climbing holding a piece of sheet metal in one hand and a selfie stick in the other right next to a tall structure in the hope of getting a picture of some lightning who then gets zapped and killed.

In the end, it was an attention seeking stunt gone horribly wrong.

So it was a stunt for the camera and he was showing off? Love to see where that has been confirmed.

randd1

kingtut wrote: »

So it was a stunt for the camera and he was showing off? Love to see where that has been confirmed.

I would have thought that was pretty obvious given there are pictures and videos of the event.

The Tetrarch

kingtut wrote: »

So it was a stunt for the camera and he was showing off? Love to see where that has been confirmed.

It was put on social media.
It depends on whether you think putting details of your life on social media is necessary reporting or showing off.

PhilOssophy

Akabusi wrote: »

I'm not buying that, surely she'd want to have a photo with the ring on her finger to complete the full story before posting.

Just the other day I was in IKEA and had to stop in the middle of the road as some twit walked backwards onto it as he had to take a photo of his full booth of IKEA stuff! Why do people feel we give a **** about every minute detail of their days

Just imagine all the likes he would have got...... #amazeballs

mordeith

touts wrote: »

I presume they are now facing a huge lawsuit.

Why? He didn't drown in the room.

Brendan Flowers

Sad story indeed. The one thing I don't understand is how his partner knew to be recording before he went down. Was the proposal a surprise or pre-planned between them both? Or maybe he just asked her to look out the window and start recording...

facehugger99

kingtut wrote: »

How would you like it if you died and we all had a laugh at your expense? :mad:

I'd imagine the fact that you're already dead would mean you wouldn't really care all that much.

kingtut

randd1 wrote: »

I would have thought that was pretty obvious given there are pictures and videos of the event.

His partner was taking videos and photos of him under the water. If my partner did the same thing I'm fairly certain I'd want photos of it too (I know when I went scuba diving years ago we took a ton of photos).

That still doesn't mean they were intended for social media. Are the couple youtube stars / bloggers? If so surely she would have posted it there and not on her facebook?

The Tetrarch wrote: »

It was put on social media.
It depends on whether you think putting details of your life on social media is necessary reporting or showing off.

I put videos and photos on my facebook all the time. Does that mean everything I record and post is a stunt

bodhrandude

It must have been the bends that got him in the end, when he tried to surface again.

randd1

kingtut wrote: »

His partner was taking videos and photos of him under the water. If my partner did the same thing I'm fairly certain I'd want photos of it too (I know when I went scuba diving years ago we took a ton of photos).

That still doesn't mean they were intended for social media. Are the couple youtube stars / bloggers? If so surely she would have posted it there and not on her facebook?

I put videos and photos on my facebook all the time. Does that mean everything I record and post is a stunt

Maybe not a stunt, just a bit of attention seeking though.

dont bother

yer womans reaction is VERY strange though.
who talks like that when their fiance literally just died in front of them?

"he was being so extra!"
"who' would have thought it!?"

wtf is up with her?

maybe the whole thing is made up.

either she is just a very self obsessed woman or she didnt give a flying F about him in the first place.

weird reaction, tbf

Gregor Samsa

bodhrandude wrote: »

It must have been the bends that got him in the end, when he tried to surface again.

You'd have to be diving very deep and very frequently to get decompression sickness from freediving. It's a hazard for pearl divers where they'd doing 50 dives a day to 30 or 40 meters, but wouldn't be an issue for a single 10m dive.

Obviously diving on scuba is a different matter altogether, since you'd be breathing compressed air in a high pressure environment. Freediving (like this guy), you're taking the air in at atmospheric pressure at the surface and bringing it with you. So the physics, chemistry and biology is different between the two.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

dont bother wrote: »

yer womans reaction is VERY strange though.
who talks like that when their fiance literally just died in front of them?

"he was being so extra!"
"who' would have thought it!?"

wtf is up with her?

maybe the whole thing is made up.

either she is just a very self obsessed woman or she didnt give a flying F about him in the first place.

weird reaction, tbf

I must have missed the life learning class which explains the appropriate way to act after a loved ones death. Could you please quickly go through the steps so I know when the time comes? Thanks.

The chap is dead. There's nothing stupid about it. Have some compassion and grow up ffs.

Bigbagofcans

There have been so many deaths caused while taking selfies - all in the name of attention-seeking.
Lots of deaths have been water-related - selfies in front of waterfalls, rivers, even ponds.

This one is shocking:

"In southern Nepal. a truck driver stopped for a wild herd of 21 elephants crossing the road. The driver exited his vehicle to take a selfie with the animals. The herd attacked and killed the man."

Metroid diorteM

10 meters is pretty deep. Extra pressure makes it harder to hold your breath if you’re not used to it.

He probably held on too long as it was an important moment.

Very sad.

J Mysterio

RE: the underwater room, I see it is said to be 10m deep. It doesn't look it from the pictures?
I can only surmise he stayed under water for too long so she could read the whole message. The message seems wholly unnecessary tbh, the ring could/ should do the talking.

Horrible and bizarre in equal measure.
Some shockingly callous comments here it must be said.

Ten of Swords

The underwater room was only 4 meters below the surface (13ft). The area the hotel room was anchored in was 10 meters deep in total

jam_mac_jam

I think this is really sad. I know it was a stupid thing to do but he was trying to be sweet. I can't go underwater at all, I love snorkeling and I have dived but without a tank I wouldn't go down deep at all. I would say he stayed longer then he was able and went unconscious.