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Brexit discussion thread XI (Please read OP before posting)

Quin_Dub

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sjb25

Well now.....

Boris must be breaking up his hotel room in the US right now

one armed dwarf

Is there any historical event that matches this, as far as PM disgraces go? This is bigger than Suez Canal surely.

Calling the historians in this thread

jem

cummings must be sacked now. it was his plan

Alun

A few people on Twitter saying that BoJo should just prorogue again immediately and provoke another court case to waste more time. Surely though the queen would just tell him where to shove it now that it's been proven he effectively lied to her last time?

lawred2

If Boris had an ounce between his ears he'd be publicly sacking that Cummings clown

PropJoe10

This is all mental. Mental.

lawred2

Alun wrote: »

A few people on Twitter saying that BoJo should just prorogue again immediately and provoke another court case to waste more time. Surely though the queen would just tell him where to shove it now that it's been proven he effectively lied to her last time?

:rolleyes:

that would be funny

imagine him rocking up to the Palace again... doubt he'd get past the gates

VinLieger

Alun wrote: »

A few people on Twitter saying that BoJo should just prorogue again immediately and provoke another court case to waste more time. Surely though the queen would just tell him where to shove it now that it's been proven he effectively lied to her last time?

Lady Hale mentioned the governments counsel had agreed to not do this so they would be going against assurances given by the government to the supreme court.

lawred2

sjb25 wrote: »

Well now.....

Boris must be breaking up his hotel room in the US right now

surrounded by how many European leaders

minikin

Gotta see some heads roll in the coming days!
No doubt all eleven will be branded as brexitraitors by the headbanger press.

mickmac76

Could the Queen ask him to step down either in private or publicly?

FrancieBrady

Surely the palace will have to comment on this? Or will they just remain silent?

listermint

lawred2 wrote: »

:rolleyes:

that would be funny

imagine him rocking up to the Palace again... doubt he'd get past the gates

He didnt rock up though, he sent Moggs instead

Sierra Oscar

Alun wrote: »

A few people on Twitter saying that BoJo should just prorogue again immediately and provoke another court case to waste more time. Surely though the queen would just tell him where to shove it now that it's been proven he effectively lied to her last time?

Considering the substantive issues would not have changed the Court would just immediately rule the prorogation unlawful if he attempted that. The unanimous verdict and the damming nature of the ruling doesn't give him any wriggle room.

Colonel Claptrap

VinLieger wrote: »

Would love to be sitting with the Queen when that came through

One has fcuked up royally.

Firefox11

Boris Johnson has to resign now.....Brexit Chaos will be onto Prime Minister No. 4

maebee

I'd love to be a fly on the wall of Theresa May's kitchen right now.

super_furry

Boris should really appeal to the European Court.

Quin_Dub

Alun wrote: »

A few people on Twitter saying that BoJo should just prorogue again immediately and provoke another court case to waste more time. Surely though the queen would just tell him where to shove it now that it's been proven he effectively lied to her last time?

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Considering the substantive issues would not have changed the Court would just immediately rule the prorogation unlawful if he attempted that. The unanimous verdict and the damming nature of the ruling doesn't give him any wriggle room.

The speaker has to close the house.

Bercow simply wouldn't do it and he now has a supreme court judgement to support him..

They would look (even more) stupid if they tried it.

Tabnabs

What will the backlash be from the pro-brexit public? Will they respect this ruling from the highest court in the land or will they march like an angry mob, egged on by hate mongers, the tabloid press and extremist politicians? This ruling must surely push Britain even further towards a precipice and the ruling, a detrimental effect on the fabric of British society.

lawred2

VinLieger wrote: »

Would love to be sitting with the Queen when that came through

I'm sure she knew that it was based on lies and falsehoods all along but wasn't going to be the Queen that took on a PM.. That Royal family know well how to manage moods of the day and to sit astride of populism.. They weren't going to do anything to get their Southern England fanbase all upset because they were deemed to be standing in the way of Brexit

lawred2

listermint wrote: »

He didnt rock up though, he sent Moggs instead

ahahaha even better

VinLieger

Tabnabs wrote: »

What will the backlash be from the pro-brexit public? Will they respect this ruling from the highest court in the land or will they march like an angry mob, egged on by hate mongers, the tabloid press and extremist politicians? This ruling must surely push Britain even further towards a precipice and the ruling, a detrimental effect on the fabric of British society.

Ive already seen brexiteers bizarrely claiming the supreme court is somehow owned by the ECJ

Also lets not forget what happened last time UK courts ruled for parliamentary sovereignty declaring MP's must vote to enact article 50, they were declared "the enemies of the peoples"

Shelga

This is absolutely mental. What is happening in the UK right now is jaw dropping stuff.

The court ruled it was unlawful, ergo Johnson and the Privy Council broke the law? Will they be prosecuted?

sjb25

super_furry wrote: »

Boris should really appeal to the European Court.

Thanks tea gone up my nose

robinph

Alun wrote: »

A few people on Twitter saying that BoJo should just prorogue again immediately and provoke another court case to waste more time. Surely though the queen would just tell him where to shove it now that it's been proven he effectively lied to her last time?

It wouldn't need another court case as the act of proroguing parliament for anything other than the standard 4 days has been deemed unlawful. So if he sent the privy council along to ask the queen to prorogue then it instantly doesn't happen as legally the bit of paper saying to do so is blank according to the court.

MP's have just been on an unauthorised holiday for the last week or so as parliament is still sitting, despite nobody turning up.

lawred2

robinph wrote: »

It wouldn't need another court case as the act of proroguing parliament for anything other than the standard 4 days has been deemed unlawful. So if he sent the privy council along to ask the queen to prorogue then it instantly doesn't happen as legally the bit of paper saying to do so is blank according to the court.

MP's have just been on an unauthorised holiday for the last week or so as parliament is still sitting, despite nobody turning up.

wonder will their salaries be docked?

VinLieger

Farage now attacking Cummings on twitter and saying the attempt to prorogue was the worst decision ever.

I wont link his tweet.

maebee

Never thought I'd find myself in agreement with anything coming out of the mouth of Farage. He's calling for Cummings to be sacked.

LeinsterDub

lawred2 wrote: »

wonder will their salaries be docked?

They had no say it in. Would you expect your salary to be docked if the boss was too hung over to open up one day?