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N22 - Macroom to Ballyvourney (Macroom Bypass) [open to traffic]

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Anyone on the meeting from last friday in macroom on the bypass.I am one of those long suffering driver on that road to cork

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annfield1978

Jons/ Craddock have won this subject to alcatel period

highwaymaniac

annfield1978 wrote: »

Jons/ Craddock have won this subject to alcatel period

So not roadbridge then as claimed on here!!

annfield1978

highwaymaniac wrote: »

So not roadbridge then as claimed on here!!

nowhere near!!

InGoochWeTrust

annfield1978 wrote: »

Jons/ Craddock have won this subject to alcatel period

Source?

Quackster

InGoochWeTrust wrote: »

Source?

Heard the same a few weeks ago.

marno21

annfield1978 has a very impressive track record of posting here without authoritative sources, so I won’t question it for a second.

It’s a bit odd those two getting such a big scheme being such small fish but all the best to them. Can’t wait to see diggers on the ground

serfboard

marno21 wrote: »

It’s a bit odd those two getting such a big scheme being such small fish but all the best to them.

Would you prefer if BAM got it? Because the Taoiseach wouldn't!

Leo Varadkar wrote:

There are one or two contractors who, quite frankly, I would not like to see get a public contract again in this State.

marno21

serfboard wrote: »

Would you prefer if BAM got it? Because the Taoiseach wouldn't!

I have no issue with them getting it just surprised is all.

annfield1978

marno21 wrote: »

I have no issue with them getting it just surprised is all.

BAM Wills were lowest but part of tender competition favour contractors closet to the average price

Cork Trucker

annfield1978 wrote: »

BAM Wills were lowest but part of tender competition favour contractors closet to the average price

Never heard of Wills, but if BAM got it we'd be still here in 2119 waiting for it.

Kevwoody

Cork Trucker wrote:

Never heard of Wills, but if BAM got it we'd be still here in 2119 waiting for it.

Wills Bros are one of the largest road building companies in Ireland.

Cork Trucker

Kevwoody wrote: »

Wills Bros are one of the largest road building companies in Ireland.

Do they trade under a different name?

KOR101

Cork Trucker wrote: »

Do they trade under a different name?

http://www.willsbros.com/

Cork Trucker

KOR101 wrote: »

http://www.willsbros.com/

I can’t for the life of me place them

marno21

Cork Trucker wrote: »

Never heard of Wills, but if BAM got it we'd be still here in 2119 waiting for it.

I have yet to see any issues with BAM on a road project. They’ve completed all their recent road contracts with no issues (N25 New Ross aside which is a tricky build)

L1011

Wills had a very strong reputation for speed and quality during the MIU rollout

Cork Trucker

marno21 wrote: »

I have yet to see any issues with BAM on a road project. They’ve completed all their recent road contracts with no issues (N25 New Ross aside which is a tricky build)

They are just out of their depth with the Cork Events Centre then?

Quackster

Cork Trucker wrote: »

They are just out of their depth with the Cork Events Centre then?

BAM have a bad reputation for pricing low and then screwing with a long list of extras at the end. Their work is undeniably to standard though. Wills did a number of projects for us in Kerry over the years.

Sixsandsevens

Very strange to give such a big scheme to small-sized contractors like Jons/Craddocks. They will be busy Jons have another road job in Meath I hear.

serfboard

Quackster wrote: »

BAM have a bad reputation for pricing low and then screwing with a long list of extras at the end.

Indeed - the Taoiseach said as much in the Dail when he stated that "companies have been low-balling" the State when bidding for major projects.

annfield1978 wrote: »

BAM Wills were lowest but part of tender competition favour contractors closet to the average price

I think that this is a very interesting development. This indicates that the state has learned, to its cost, not to pick the lowest tender.

road_high

Had the “pleasure” for the first time driving this road- god it’s an horrific stretch of awful unrelenting crap road. I’d have to say it’s worse than say the old N9 between Kilkenny and Waterford which was my national primary benchmark of terrible roads- it’s narrower and more winding with two never ending small towns either end. Must be accidents on it a lot. The 80kmh limit doesn’t even feel comfortable or safe. Most of the upgraded bits out from Killarney are great though