Conall Cernach wrote: » Wooden actors? Bergman, Bogart and Rains had shelf loads of awards like Oscars, Tonys, Emmys as well as nominations between them.
Gregor Samsa wrote: » Yes, back in the 40s and surrounding decades. What we expect from actors (and movies in general) has changed. Few of those performances would be considered noteworthy if they were done in an identical fashion today (and removed from their historical context). I really don’t get why the notion that we judge things in the context of their time is a difficult one to understand. Put it this way: if Casablanca hadn’t been made in the early 40s, and an identical movie was made this year - with the exact same script, performances, sets, editing - would it be considered a classic? I think the answer is obviously no. It’s a classic now because it was a classic then, and that historical context is important.
Hobosan wrote: » Screen acting has vastly improved since those days. It's a young art form, nothing surprising about the fact acting in many old films was bit odd.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Lol. That’s the attitude alright. People seem to believe it even though the inbetweeners is a perfect example of the contrary.
biko wrote: » Don't worry, Hollywood will rehash and destroy Casablanca like so many other movies.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » What would count as a non PC comedy? Any examples?
Batrachotox wrote: » The Inbetweeners first aired over a decade ago. Times change.
RocketRaccoon wrote: » Exactly as the poster above said, people have ruined comedy by wanting to be offended by every small little thing. Stand up comedy is in the absolute doldrums because of these pussies.
McLoughlin wrote: » They did with Pamela Anderson in the 90s kept the storyline but changed the name and setting
Das Rich wrote: » A you mad? A tv programme where a bunch of young lads use words like 'bent' as an insult? And have a less than enlightened view of women? Come off it lad, it wouldn't get made today, the fun police wouldn't allow it. Peep show is another.
wakka12 wrote: » If they have to be funny by taking out the joke on somebody maybe theyre just not that funny? The funniest people I know make everybody in the room laugh, and dont need somebody there to be used as a butt to get their laughs
RocketRaccoon wrote: » Eddie Murphy and Richard Pryor. Arguably 2 of the greatest stand up comedians of all time, if they did a show now like they did in the 70s and 80s they would be ****ing destroyed by the media and the freaks. Just look at Kevin Hart for the perfect example, was basically forced out of hosting the Oscars because of tweets he put out years before.
RocketRaccoon wrote: » wakka12 wrote: » If they have to be funny by taking out the joke on somebody maybe theyre just not that funny? The funniest people I know make everybody in the room laugh, and dont need somebody there to be used as a butt to get their laughs Eddie Murphy and Richard Pryor. Arguably 2 of the greatest stand up comedians of all time, if they did a show now like they did in the 70s and 80s they would be ****ing destroyed by the media and the freaks. Just look at Kevin Hart for the perfect example, was basically forced out of hosting the Oscars because of tweets he put out years before.
Harry Palmr wrote: » It feels as if every comedy is now either a lame "rom-com" aimed at the 18-40 female cohort or a shoddy gross out (mixed with a strain of gooey sentiment) comedy of the painfully obvious acted out by obnoxious loud mouths for the college jock crowd. There are some good one being made I'm sure but bet not many reach your local fleapit.
dxhound2005 wrote: » From a different context, but just to show that "everything was grand in my day, and the world is going to hell in a handcart now" is nothing new when it comes to standards. This was written in England in 1967, harking back to a golden age 20 years before. It is unfortunate but true that during the last 20 years or so there has been a steady decline in general standards of behaviour and what can only be called " the attitude of the individual." History shows that this is one of the results of war and its aftermath, when all sorts of things are done for reasons of expediency or in the exigencies of the moment. Inevitably, this tends to engender an off -hand attitude to what is right, carried on into the day-to-day life of too many individuals. In the end, it becomes the done thing to " work a quick one if you can get away with it." This leads to a deterioration of standards generally, as evidenced (to quote only one example) by the coarse vulgarity of much of what is shown on TV, and the witless ignorance of many people whose opinions are publicised merely because they happen to be notorious.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » This is exactly what I keep saying. If Murphy and Pryor did their sets today they would never get anywhere because the jokes they made are not relevant anymore. They could do modern contemporary jokes but you might or might not find them funny if you like he old jokes you’ve heard a dozen times before. The notion that you can’t make edgy jokes is totally disproved by the likes of Frankie Boyle and Jimmy Carr. Do any of you go to local stand up comedy clubs? I go with a group from work and I can tell you They make all kinds of jokes (including lots of not very funny ones)
BurnUp78 wrote: » Come to think of it, is the Inbetweeners the last decent comedy series to be made?
RocketRaccoon wrote: » Take Raw as an example. If he was to keep mainly the same jokes but change the people being mentioned, would it be seen as a success or completely slated by critics trying to please all the offended communities? "that's a real fag on the roof" just imagine the bleeding hearts if he said that in a show in 2019. "I got rules, ******s aren't allowed look at my ass when I'm on stage". What would the reaction be to that?
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » The first reaction to it would probably be "why is he doing jokes from the 80s?" Gays, gays potentially raping straight men, AIDS and other STIs were relevant topics of conversation at the time so they were represented in the comedy. Does anyone see a gay and say "look out lads, queer about, backs to the wall". Do you find that kind of joke funny or do you lust like when Murphy did them for nostalgia's sake?
RocketRaccoon wrote: » El_Duderino 09 wrote: » The first reaction to it would probably be "why is he doing jokes from the 80s?" Gays, gays potentially raping straight men, AIDS and other STIs were relevant topics of conversation at the time so they were represented in the comedy. Does anyone see a gay and say "look out lads, queer about, backs to the wall". Do you find that kind of joke funny or do you lust like when Murphy did them for nostalgia's sake? As i said, if he was to adjust the wording to suit the time I would most likely find it funny. I adore comedy that makes people uncomfortable and courts controversy, they're jokes and let's be honest, people shouldn't be offended by them.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » BuboBubo wrote: » Benny Hill Never saw it. I’m familiar with the chase scenes with the benny hill music. Was it good? Would it stand up today?
BuboBubo wrote: » Benny Hill
RocketRaccoon wrote: » As i said, if he was to adjust the wording to suit the time I would most likely find it funny. I adore comedy that makes people uncomfortable and courts controversy, they're jokes and let's be honest, people shouldn't be offended by them.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » I don't understand the premise. Is he doing new jokes or is he doing jokes on the same topics with different wording? If he was doing jokes about worrying about gays looking at his arse, then it wouldn't really be relevant. Most people have gotten over the fear of gays since Raw was made. I don't think you're giving enough credit to Murphy for making jokes that were relevant to the time. I don't know if Murphy could make a brand new routine with jokes that are relevant to today. I don't see why he couldn't do it if he wanted to. His stuff was funny back then so he could most likely make some joke for today if he can put his finger on the pulse of today's anxieties and come up with the material
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » Sounds like a boring joke back to be honest, either back then or now. You are sure you're talking about 'humour' here, right? Offensive or otherwise?
RocketRaccoon wrote: » With the rumours of him getting a Netflix deal, hopefully we get to see if he can adapt.
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