Greta and the aristocrat sail the high seas to save the planet.

Is it just me or does a lot of the greta criticism come across very creepy? Real peado vibes emanating from some of it.

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

All of us are contributing to climate change, it's impossible not to. I'm not lecturing to anyone.

The climate has been changing since time began.

Google ice ages, might help you understand how we have no control over it.

Thelonious Monk

lola85 wrote: »

The climate has been changing since time began.

Google ice ages, might help you understand how we have no control over it.

No thanks lola, I'll listen to the UN and NASA and the vast vast majority of scientists who tell us man is contributing greatly to global warming

Fan of Netflix

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Is it just me or does a lot of the greta criticism come across very creepy? Real peado vibes emanating from some of it.

Other way round

https://twitter.com/spikedonline/status/1175008787876503554

paleoperson

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Is it just me or does a lot of the greta criticism come across very creepy? Real peado vibes emanating from some of it.

I'd sooner ask what sort of individual would rather bend the knee and be in such adulation of a 16 year old girl and her words rather than a seasoned professional who has spent decades at the forefront of environmental causes. That seems a lot creepier.

jackboy

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

No thanks lola, I'll listen to the UN and NASA and the vast vast majority of scientists who tell us man is contributing greatly to global warming

The vast majority of scientists do not tell us that man is contributing greatly to global warming. That myth has been long since debunked.

You would think with all this pollution humans wouldn’t be living longer than ever????????

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

No thanks lola, I'll listen to the UN and NASA and the vast vast majority of scientists who tell us man is contributing greatly to global warming

And that’s it?

You won’t listen to any other opinions?

gozunda

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Is it just me or does a lot of the greta criticism come across very creepy? Real peado vibes emanating from some of it.

Well done on yet more repetition of the same sad cringeworthy comment that has been dragged up nth times...

But no - criticising the greta and friends dog and pony show is not the same as paedophilia. No matter how much **** smearing some is engaged in ...

Such comments give more away about those pushing that angle than anything else. Real fuking creepy indeed ...

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

Other way round

https://twitter.com/spikedonline/status/1175008787876503554

Without googling or looking in to it further I'm pretty sure the two 'blokes' in that video love brexit and wouldn't be fond of foreigners neither. Innit.

lola85 wrote: »

You would think with all this pollution humans wouldn’t be living longer than ever????????

Genuine question. Are you a bit simple?

BarryD2

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

The one off housing everywhere though should never have happened, it has made too many people reliant on cars. Personally I would never live anywhere where I can't walk to a pub or a shop whenever I wanted.

There were/ are plenty of people living in rural Ireland who don't live in 'one off' housing. Traditionally that's where people lived before they moved towards cities like Dublin for work. Therein lies a problem, rural areas have shrinking services - it has been state policy for many years to centralise more and oblige people to travel to access services. The state argues this is more cost efficient. Large increases in fuel taxes will doubly penalise rural dwellers.

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

No thanks lola, I'll listen to the UN and NASA and the vast vast majority of scientists who tell us man is contributing greatly to global warming

Always keep in mind the need of academics and scientists to find sources of funding for research, to keep themselves bankrolled.

jackboy wrote: »

The vast majority of scientists do not tell us that man is contributing greatly to global warming. That myth has been long since debunked.

I'll take some evidence of this please.

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

Other way round

https://twitter.com/spikedonline/status/1175008787876503554

Brendan O'Neil. Get real man.

Thousands of scientists on one side, this charlatan on the other. Equal opportunity to speak does not equate to arguments being equal.

lola85 wrote: »

The climate has been changing since time began.

Google ice ages, might help you understand how we have no control over it.

Rate. Of. Change.

Do you understand the context of this and how it is relevant in the current argument?

jackboy

Tell me how wrote: »

I'll take some evidence of this please.

You made the claim about what the majority of scientists are saying. It’s up to you to prove it.

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Genuine question. Are you a bit simple?

Simple understanding of how the earth cools and heats up over millions of years.

Common sense.

But common sense isn’t so common it would seem.

Tell me how wrote: »

Rate. Of. Change.

Do you understand the context of this and how it is relevant in the current argument?

Nope.

We had the coldest April last year in 100 years.

Winter is coming.

When we are all wearing hats and scarfs in December, come back with your nonsense about climate change.

jackboy wrote: »

You made the claim about what the majority of scientists are saying. It’s up to you to prove it.

From NASA

Scientific Consensus: Earth's Climate is Warming

Now, can you give me an example that the majority of scientists disagree with this seeing as you stated it.

lola85 wrote: »

Nope.

We had the coldest April last year in 100 years.

Winter is coming.

When we are all wearing hats and scarfs in December, come back with your nonsense about climate change.

Ah yes, the Donald Trump scientific approach to understanding the climate.

Fairly hard to argue with that of course.

Tell me how wrote: »

Ah yes, the Donald Trump scientific approach to understanding the climate.

Fairly hard to argue with that of course.

Well if he’s as stupid as you think surely you have a credible argument?

jackboy

Tell me how wrote: »

Now, can you give me an example that the majority of scientists disagree with this seeing as you stated it.

I didn’t say that majority of scientists disagreed with that. I said that there is no evidence that the majority of scientists agreed with that. Those are two very different things.

Tuisceanch

I keep seeing variants of the following argument "The climate has been changing since time began" insinuating that the human impact on climate change is negligible or irrelevant or that it's even a hoax. This is a very strange argument since nobody with any credibility would dispute that.
An extract from the following link https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/GlobalWarming/page2.php might help to illustrate that point.

"As the Earth moved out of ice ages over the past million years, the global temperature rose a total of 4 to 7 degrees Celsius over about 5,000 years. In the past century alone, the temperature has climbed 0.7 degrees Celsius, roughly ten times faster than the average rate of ice-age-recovery warming."

In brief it's the rate of change that is unprecedented. This would be a more useful starting point to base your arguments against the human impact on climate change.

Tell me how wrote: »

From NASA

Now, can you give me an example that the majority of scientists disagree with this seeing as you stated it.

https://spectator.org/fake-science-on-climate-change-threatens-economic-and-civil-freedoms/

We can all play that game.

“The problem with allowing politics to intrude in a matter of science and objective truth is that people get hurt, get diseased, and die.… 4.3 million people a year in developing countries die because they can’t turn on an electrical cooker, so they have smoke-filled huts because they cook on open fires, and the particular pollution kills their children and often kills them too. 4.3 million a year. That’s very nearly one Holocaust a year, just from that one cause of not having electricity, which the World Bank won’t give them”

lola85 wrote: »

Simple understanding of how the earth cools and heats up over millions of years.

Common sense.

But common sense isn’t so common it would seem.

That's a yes then. Fair enough.

lola85 wrote: »

https://spectator.org/fake-science-on-climate-change-threatens-economic-and-civil-freedoms/

We can all play that game.

“The problem with allowing politics to intrude in a matter of science and objective truth is that people get hurt, get diseased, and die.… 4.3 million people a year in developing countries die because they can’t turn on an electrical cooker, so they have smoke-filled huts because they cook on open fires, and the particular pollution kills their children and often kills them too. 4.3 million a year. That’s very nearly one Holocaust a year, just from that one cause of not having electricity, which the World Bank won’t give them”

We can yeah, I think NASA trumps a conservative mouthpiece however.

lola85 wrote: »

Well if he’s as stupid as you think surely you have a credible argument?

Yes, listen to the scientists.

Tell me how wrote: »

Yes, listen to the scientists.

Scientists who claim it’s a myth.

I do listen to them also.

I listen to all sides.

Tuisceanch wrote: »

I keep seeing variants of the following argument "The climate has been changing since time began" insinuating that the human impact on climate change is negligible or irrelevant or that it's even a hoax. This is a very strange argument since nobody with any credibility would dispute that.
An extract from the following link https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/GlobalWarming/page2.php might help to illustrate that point.

"As the Earth moved out of ice ages over the past million years, the global temperature rose a total of 4 to 7 degrees Celsius over about 5,000 years. In the past century alone, the temperature has climbed 0.7 degrees Celsius, roughly ten times faster than the average rate of ice-age-recovery warming."

In brief it's the rate of change that is unprecedented. This would be a more useful starting point to base your arguments against the human impact on climate change.

Seriously who the **** was around 1 million years ago holding a thermometer in the air?