Greta and the aristocrat sail the high seas to save the planet.

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

https://twitter.com/spikedonline/status/1174979909963243520

So true.

Brendan O'Neil? Him of the infamous Irish Peasant stock interview? Seriously?

I'll take the scientists thanks.

handlemaster wrote: »

whats the story with greta s schooling ?

A question that should be directed to Gretas parents rather than this forum. Normally 16 years in Sweden will be attending highschool. Prior to this based on her Mothers book (only available in Swedish at this time) both her and her sister were attending a special needs school. Both of them manifest Aspergers and OCD behaviours, though based on a review of the mothers book by a Danish journalist, the outcome is probably driven by her mother who is struggling to cope.

Fan of Netflix

https://twitter.com/spikedonline/status/1174979909963243520

So true.

Tell me how wrote: »

I'd imagine that A, they had to start somewhere, B the level of data available since 1950 would understandably be much greater than before it and C, manufacturing, travel etc all exploded from 1950 onwards.

Have you a body of scientists who state that this is the case with evidence to support their argument? Because one side does.

The temperature records for Europe, the USA and Australia go back to the 19th century. There is also the central England record that goes back further. Outside of those areas there is very little data available even today most of Africa reports no data and there are almost no records for the oceans which cover the bulk of the planets surface area.

If you are referring to the IPCC report, these are projections based on opinion they are not evidence since the events have not happened yet. The track record of successful predictions from scientists over the past 50 years is very poor.

JJayoo wrote: »

Climate change is definitely an issue, warming/pumping crap into the air/plastic in the oceans, but all this protesting nonsense is just manipulating children so certain virtue signalers Can pat themselves on the back.

Why not organise an annual week in which students/younger people can actually do something positive for the climate/earth? Organised tree plantings at schools/community greens/at local football pitch (not on the pitch ), and they can have lessons about the topic in school.

I just cannot stand people who complain and moan and go to these protests and yet wouldn't dare lift a finger to actually do anything practical to remedy the situation, no matter how small.

If parents chose not to buy plastic toys this Christmas that would be a positive thing.

Somedaythefire

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

It's cringeworthy. So self loathing they can't even speak with an Irish accent. They sound ridiculous, it detracts from their message.

Why?

Fan of Netflix

Somedaythefire wrote: »

Who cares?

It's cringeworthy. So self loathing they can't even speak with an Irish accent. They sound ridiculous, it detracts from their message.

JJayoo

Climate change is definitely an issue, warming/pumping crap into the air/plastic in the oceans, but all this protesting nonsense is just manipulating children so certain virtue signalers Can pat themselves on the back.

Why not organise an annual week in which students/younger people can actually do something positive for the climate/earth? Organised tree plantings at schools/community greens/at local football pitch (not on the pitch

), and they can have lessons about the topic in school.

I just cannot stand people who complain and moan and go to these protests and yet wouldn't dare lift a finger to actually do anything practical to remedy the situation, no matter how small.

handlemaster

whats the story with greta s schooling ?

Somedaythefire

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

I thought I was watching CNN earlier. Can they not hear themselves? You'd think they lived in San Francisco. Maybe they need to be shown a map, we are in Ireland a small island in Europe. Not California.

Why would anyone take them seriously when they can't even speak properly?

Who cares?

joe40 wrote: »

NASA, Royal Society of Chemistry, United Nations, countless universities and professors worldwide,(including Irish) all part of a massive global propaganda campaign.
Sure what would they know.

If you read their reports from these organisations (the reputable ones anyway) you will see that no where is the alarmism attributed to them supported in their work. The alarmism is not being generated by the majority of scientists, it comes from the NGOs, the media and the green slime i.e. the cabal of billionaires, billionaire families, and retirement funds who are deeply invested in wind and solar ventures to harvest tax credits for more riches. The "green slime" is symbolic of the trail of money they leave in their wake for politicians and academics to feed off, who then become subservient to more slime from the billionaires. The green slime also fuels the well organised propaganda media campaigns through the multiple layers of non-profit organisations that can receive these tax-deductible donations.

Also realise the childrens climate protests are not the work of Greta Thunberg, the planning and organisation for them goes back to 2015. Climate change also ranks at the bottom of peoples concerns globally.

Fan of Netflix

PowerToWait wrote: »

I think it’s great the youth are in some way politicized, even if I doubt the integrity of their intentions in many instances.

But Jesus the absolute state of the accents they have these days, whether it be Cork or Galway or of course Dublin, it's one homogeneous lump of cringe.

I thought I was watching CNN earlier. Can they not hear themselves? You'd think they lived in San Francisco. Maybe they need to be shown a map, we are in Ireland a small island in Europe. Not California.

Why would anyone take them seriously when they can't even speak properly?

Tell me how wrote: »

I don't go to the Dr and tell him how to treat me.

Well this switching off of the brain is the reason half the country is addicted to benzos.

Always keep your mind open.

Micky 32

Tell me how wrote: »

Nobody has answers to your questions. How could they at this point?

The thing is, there could be no other outcome I was hoping someone might have a different conclusion. We are too dependent on fossil fuels and not everyone can afford a new car never mind a new electric car. Is the government going to hand them out?

If you are stinking rich you'll be grand but anyone lower like the normal working class and lower income people they will be screwed, food , fuel, travel , etc will sky rocket and harder to afford because of the carbon taxes that will be imposed. To me, unless someone can correct me which I hope they can, the future in this sh×thole looks bleak.

jackboy wrote: »

Can you not see the problem with that?

Nope. I believe when such a large, international, qualified group of people can present evidence to support their case, and in the absence of counter evidence, why would I second guess them?

I don't go to the Dr and tell him how to treat me.

PowerToWait

I think it’s great the youth are in some way politicized, even if I doubt the integrity of their intentions in many instances.

But Jesus the absolute state of the accents they have these days, whether it be Cork or Galway or of course Dublin, it's one homogeneous lump of cringe.

Micky 32 wrote: »

You quoted my post but didn't answer my questions.

Nobody has answers to your questions. How could they at this point?

Tell me how wrote: »

I'd imagine that A, they had to start somewhere, B the level of data available since 1950 would understandably be much greater than before it and C, manufacturing, travel etc all exploded from 1950 onwards.

Can you not see the problem with that?

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

That report is just a series of projections (they no longer use predictions) in case the temperatures rose by 1.5C. Was there no climate before 1950? why ever did they pick that year as a starting point?

I'd imagine that A, they had to start somewhere, B the level of data available since 1950 would understandably be much greater than before it and C, manufacturing, travel etc all exploded from 1950 onwards.

jackboy wrote: »

The section where they discuss the effects of 1.5 deg Celsius increase from pre industrial times. Predictions are not evidence. Also, Comparing weather events over a very short time period is clearly problematic. Especially, when accurate reliable measurements are not available.

Have you a body of scientists who state that this is the case with evidence to support their argument? Because one side does.

Tell me how wrote: »

Is section 3.3 of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report from October 8th last not sufficient evidence for you, or do you have a preferred academic report which you prefer as opposed to this one?

The section where they discuss the effects of 1.5 deg Celsius increase from pre industrial times. Predictions are not evidence. Also, Comparing weather events over a very short time period is clearly problematic. Especially, when accurate reliable measurements are not available.

Abel Ruiz wrote: »

How do I get educated on this and how do I get involved?

This isn't a bad place to start.

10 simple ways to help

Tell me how wrote: »

Is section 3.3 of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report from October 8th last not sufficient evidence for you, or do you have a preferred academic report which you prefer as opposed to this one?

That report is just a series of projections (they no longer use predictions) in case the temperatures rose by 1.5C. Was there no climate before 1950? why ever did they pick that year as a starting point?

Micky 32

Tell me how wrote: »

The kids don't have any idea on what an improved world would mean. How could they?

What they know is that action is required. If your car is giving you trouble, you don't wait until you know how exactly to fix it yourself before you call a mechanic.

What the kids do know is that action is required. That much is beyond doubt to most people at this point.

You quoted my post but didn't answer my questions.

Micky 32 wrote: »

I'm curious about this climate action these kids etc want. So if they get their way does this mean our freedoms are going to be reduced?

Petrol and diesel suddenly shoot up in price to unaffordable levels, cost of everything going up ? Most people won't be able to afford a rip off electric car.

Also air travel will only be affordable for the rich? Would this country just end up being just for the rich? What's the outcome for all this anyone predict?

I can see the Greens going to get landslide elections with these up and coming kids when they can vote.

The kids don't have any idea on what an improved world would mean. How could they?

What they know is that action is required. If your car is giving you trouble, you don't wait until you know how exactly to fix it yourself before you call a mechanic.

What the kids do know is that action is required. That much is beyond doubt to most people at this point.

Micky 32

I'm curious about this climate action these kids etc want. So if they get their way does this mean our freedoms are going to be reduced?

Petrol and diesel suddenly shoot up in price to unaffordable levels, cost of everything going up ? Most people won't be able to afford a rip off electric car.

Also air travel will only be affordable for the rich? Would this country just end up being just for the rich? What's the outcome for all this anyone predict?

I can see the Greens going to get landslide elections with these up and coming kids when they can vote.

Abel Ruiz

mooreman09 wrote: »

For what Its worth. I think its brilliant that kids are being educated on this and being encouraged to get involved.

How do I get educated on this and how do I get involved?

jackboy wrote: »

No evidence for this. The climate has been really stable in recent years with few real ‘freak’ events. Massive populations of humans have moved into flood plains and built inappropriate homes. This has guaranteed many catastrophes.

Is section 3.3 of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report from October 8th last not sufficient evidence for you, or do you have a preferred academic report which you prefer as opposed to this one?