wrangler wrote: » I'd guess that all protests will have to stand down before legal oroceedings are withdrawn. There was some sort of a wind up meeting in Ballinasloe yesterday,some farmers must have been caught in the euphoria. The so called ''Vat scam'' was on the agenda
freedominacup wrote: » Honestly we all know f'all. Abp Waterford ramped back up full bore despite the vote. The like of the lunacy being propogated online has to be seen to be believed. Apparently negotiators who were in the room last weekend have been paid off to push the agreement. No point in having any votes. The whole thing has definitely jumped the shark.
mf240 wrote: » Rumour Mill in full production on both sides.
freedominacup wrote: » How do you mean? I was there last night. I saw the online stuff this morning. What I am posting is not rumour. The guy who got the abp protest off the ground is a neighbour. The main reason I picketed was to support him when the injunctions came down. I was speaking to his son at the school this morning. F'off with rumours.
Robson99 wrote: » What do you see happening Freedom ?? Will it take a guaranteed base price to end it ?? Going by the reports yesterday protest numbers were falling but this could be due to weather, ploughing, fear or exhaustion. However it could also be PR bull**** put out to weaken the protests
freedominacup wrote: » No way of knowing how it will pan out now. A good few lads who have done their share at gates won't be going back. They don't want to face down farmers bringing stock to the factories and don't want to be left swinging by fellas who talk a good fight in the dark. Another group are stepping up, I'm not sure how much they have done up to now. Time will tell how strong their resolve is.
Robson99 wrote: » Cannot see how Bsloe is getting such big numbers as it's a much smaller plant than athleague or ballyhaunis and no sheep killed there either. Are there much protesters at BJD ?
Panch18 wrote: » Is this other group farmers?
Base price wrote: » I passed by about half and hour ago and there was 7 or 8.
Muckit wrote: » You never saluted. You mustn't have seen me.... and about 10 others it seems!!
Robson99 wrote: » Think Base was on about BJD. Wats the mood like in Bsloe Muckit ?? Are they in it for long haul ??
Bass Reeves wrote: » Yes these are the continuity farmer they are a follow on from the BP and the IFI farmer. There are now plans to set up the Real farmer as well to follow on from these and then the Provisional farmers followed by the Official farmers if Ireland. There is a small cohort of finisher's that think they should have complete say over what farmers are entitled to do. This small cohort think nobody is entitled to protest. I have news for them this is not over yet. It may smoulder for a while but will burst into flames again from talking to lads. The lads getting mart managers and other so called interested parties to put pressure on farmers need to realize it ain't over yet. Processor may have a window to make concessions but it will not take much for places to be blockaded again
Base price wrote: » There was 4 or 5 men sitting in the tent thing and 3 standing outside.
Anto_Meath wrote: » Its time to stand down for now and then next April / May when cattle are scares and factories are actively looking for cattle then is the time to stick them for a minimum base price for €3.90 / €4 a kilo. But farmers would need to be willing to do this no matter what price is been offered to farmers at the time. It might remind the mad for grass lads in the spring to be realistic in what they are paying for stores. Seen one such boy selling his stores this week. All spring he was given €1,000 - €1,100 for year old fancy cattle just under 400 kgs. He was getting it had to get them into €1,150 €1,200 this week and them around 530 kgs.
Bass Reeves wrote: » 2 lads keeping a eyes on a place will keep it closed
freedominacup wrote: » No it won't. If farmers start arriving with their own cattle 20 won't be enough.
Good loser wrote: » freedominacup wrote: » No it won't. If farmers start arriving with their own cattle 20 won't be enough. It might be a good idea for the factories to fix it that all the cattle for a day's kill could be scheduled to arrive at the same time and that all should stick around until the stock are delivered. And possibly wait until the fridges get out. A few days of this should finish off this undemocratic blockade.
Good loser wrote: » It might be a good idea for the factories to fix it that all the cattle for a day's kill could be scheduled to arrive at the same time and that all should stick around until the stock are delivered. And possibly wait until the fridges get out. A few days of this should finish off this undemocratic blockade.
Jb1989 wrote: » Not based on you alone, but the solidarity has took an offal hit in the last few days here. The final protesters, are baseing their actions on wanting a base price set. This was always the number one issue, but is now being accepted by the majority as not happening, major change from almost everyone wanting a decent base set. Without it, the factory are still in law to reduce their future price offers, to reflect QA bonus, anything to work the favour of their and bord bias pockets,. On a side or link note, vradakar and other politicians, today, were advising the factories to offer a decent base of their own accord, to "win back the trust of the farmers". "win back the trust" in my eyes, points that the factories are known to have been the bad guys in this fiasco, should that not mean even more to the farmers side, and some major consequences put to the beef barons?....
Good loser wrote: » Don't quite know what you're getting at but it's completely off the rails to think Bord Bia are gaining anything out of this.
