Dytalus wrote: » Yeah, I've a close friend whose long term boyfriend is going to be in the same boat. She's taking him on one last tour of EU countries just before Brexit-day (assuming October 31st stays as Brexit day). Dunno if he's gonna get the 1k or so together for Irish citizenship.
farmchoice wrote: » indeed he has, but as things stand today in the event of him failing to get agree a deal he has a legal obligation to ask for an extension. so he either gets around this legal obligation (and he is hinting he has a way to do this, mind you his form in getting one over benn grieve et al is not great to date) or he resigns, or he holds his nose and asks for it. he could resign (arrange a vote of no confidence in himself) and allow corbyn into going for the extension and waiting for the election to come. i think this is quite possible it may even have the added benefit of corbyn actually sorting something out in the mean time.
Zubeneschamali wrote: » A referendum would require an extension, which Boris has repeatedly said he will not ask for.
trellheim wrote: » OK my take [ UK Supreme court judgment aside as its a wildcard ] We will very shortly see stuff coming out to be road-tested backstop (de-dramatized or whatever you want to call it ) Steve Baker is still not tweeting ( well not much, certainly not at peak ERG levels) . Why do I harp on about this ? Because he is an acid test for the ERG - he rejected government so he could be a purist at the backbenches , if he went in he knew well he'd have to toe the line. Without the ERG a deal cannot pass, and with them it has the barest possibility so if he stays quiet the fix is in. Arlene's visit may have got some traction so I would say as she tells the DUP how to vote Nothing else matters - its a numbers game for the whips to play ; there is no time at all for anything else. As mentioned above you need to take a deal to EUCO it can't be done onsite so it all needs to spring more or less fully formed off the page ( I am assuming this is the argument - if it turns out that its nitpicking other WA stuff beyond NI-only backstop , or a time limit then all bets are off )
farmchoice wrote: » for Johnson to get anything threw he needs labour to abstain at the very least,the only possible way he will now get that is if he promises a referendum and i cant see that happening.
Tell me how wrote: » Is Brexitcast scheduled for TV tonight? I was just about to post that given the reaction to LK yesterday, the next one might be a while in coming. Wouldn't be surprised if she was unable to make it.
josip wrote: » Might be a slow morning but it took me a few reads to understand that; you've phrase it beautifully in the context of recent posts about non EU spouses. My instinct after a lifetime of hearing about 'similar' cases was, "he's gotten that wrong, he meant to say it the other way. How can someone become non-EU?" Mein gott, what do they think they're doing?
Entering other countries Visas: you should not need one for short trips After Brexit, you will not need a visa for short trips, according to European Commission proposals. You could stay for up to 90 days in any 180-day period. You may need a visa or permit to stay for longer, or to work or study. Check back for updates. When the rules are confirmed, information about how to get a visa if you need one will be on each country’s travel advice page. Travel to Ireland will not change after Brexit. You’ll also be able to work in Ireland in the same way as before.
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Infini wrote: » I wouldn't be suprised come 2 weeks that instead of there being negotiations the EU just puts out a "No Deal is happening" message along with all measures regarding trade etc as of Oct 31st.
MrMusician18 wrote: » Not exactly true. How Blair was referred to evolved over time: First he was Tony, then Tony Blair, then just Blair and finally Bliar.
Mr.Nice Guy wrote: » By the broadcasters? I can't recall Blair ever being described on a first name basis by the main channels. Maybe others can recall it in which case I'll stand corrected but this pally term of 'Boris' feels like a pretty unprecedented step.
Leroy42 wrote: » Another ultimatum for Johnson. Why do the EU bother? What will they do if Johnson doesn't produce within 2 weeks? Nothing, of course, because it wouldn't make any more sense to pull the plug in 2 weeks than it does now. Wasn't today the end of the 30 day period that Johnson so joyously jumped on?
Professor Moriarty wrote: » Just an observation. If they are going on a tour of the EU surely they should put aside 1k for citizenship?
Dytalus wrote: » Yeah, I've a close friend whose long term boyfriend is going to be in the same boat. She's taking him on one last tour of EU countries just before Brexit-day (assuming October 31st stays as Brexit day). Dunno if he's gonna get the 1k or so together for Irish citizenship. The pair of them really like to travel too, and if they didn't live in Ireland with the CTA he'd be in some considerable trouble paperwork wise for staying here. Makes you feel awful for the people on the continent who don't have the CTA to shield them post-Brexit.
lawred2 wrote: » my wife is soon to be non EU - that sucks even more - it's going to cost us the bones of 2 grand for her Irish citizenship just to be the same as we are now...
FrancieBrady wrote: » Tommy Gorman's rather simpering read of the DUP and it's motives and sincerity has been wrong so many times over the last 3 years it's getting embarrassing. He consistently tries to bail them out, give them the benefit of his doubt while never once highlighting anything sinister or mercenary in what they are doing. There is no comparison to Tony Connelly's calm and reasonable and ultimately fair journalism.
Shelga wrote: » All of this started with him, and led directly to the other two, so I think yes, he’s the worst.
Peregrinus wrote: » Can we really say the worst ever, while Teresa May and Boris Johnson still draw breath?
Dytalus wrote: » Irish citizens are not being targeted. People travelling from Ireland are and the difference is one such a legal case would collapse on. The passport checks flying into Spain (for example) apply just as much to a Spanish citizens as they do to an Irish citizen because they have flown in from a non-Schengen country. We still do not need visas, and our passport checks get expedited because of our status as EU citizens (as would my hypothetical Spanish traveller's). Most airports I've flown into even have automated passport gates for EU nationals specifically for this purpose. Your wife needs a visa because she's non-EU. This sucks, I'll admit, and is quite an inconvenience but so long as she's not an EU-national she's not privy to all the same conveniences. Denmark, Norway, and Iceland won't accept her EHIC card where they will accept yours for example. Even were Ireland in Schengen and she had a national residence document, she would still possibly be subject to checks at an internal Schengen border (although she would not need a visa) to ensure she fulfilled the entry requirements. I agree Ireland should be part of Schengen....if our extremely close ties with the UK collapse post-Brexit. I'm all for a more unified, united Europe - I support a number of aspects of federalisation. But I also recognise that the CTA is of greater importance to us than Schengen is for the moment.
Scoondal wrote: » Somebody is going to take a legal case about this discrimination of Irish people in EU law. It is morally and legally wrong. EU citizens cannot be treated differently in law because of a bi-lateral agreement with a soon to be non EU country. I can expand my case if anyone wishes because I have jumped through all the hoops that were put in front of me.
Shelga wrote: » Cameron waffling away on Radio 4 right now. He makes no apology for calling the referendum, says he had no choice, makes no apology for doing no preparation for what would happen if Leave won- “the government position was to remain, so that’s what we focused on.” He expresses deep regret about how things have turned out, but who cares. Nothing he says can ever fix the can of nationalist worms he has unleashed, nor change his position as worst UK Prime Minister ever.
Leroy42 wrote: » Another ultimatum for Johnson. Why do the EU bother?
Leroy42 wrote: » What will they do if Johnson doesn't produce within 2 weeks?
Leroy42 wrote: » Wasn't today the end of the 30 day period that Johnson so joyously jumped on?
