Daz_ wrote: » Dublin got 1,6 million in sponsorship alone. I don’t think this is even a credible debate anymore. This 5 in a row will always have an * beside it and a question mark. It’s not greatness , it’s great financial management .
Tombo2001 wrote: » I think that's the nub of the issue. The problem is that this blame game which I think is a very Irish thing. The system is broken - so people don't say "how can we fix it?"...… they say "who do we blame for it". I'm a bit sensitive about the whole "lets bash Dublin" thing, as though unlike yourself I amnt from Dublin, nonetheless I live in Dublin and I think overall (outside of GAA) Dublin receives less than it should as a % of total investment around the country considering the city's population and growth. There is no doubt, both in GAA and in society overall - that Dublin is subsidising the rest of the country big style. Big time.People banging on about how Dublin gets more than other counties 'from the GAA'. Where does the GAA get its revenue in the first place? Dublin matches have by far the biggest attendances of any games in the country. And yet you have the double whammy where country people want to take money out of Dublin on the one hand, and at the same time whinge and whinge about how those lads in the city get it all. So which is it - do people want to fix a problem. And there is no doubt a problem with a Leinster Championship where the same team wins for 10/15/20 years in a row. Or for that matter a munster championship also. Or do people just want to whinge.
threeball wrote: » So Niall Moyna and others have been lying in interviews they gave speaking about their work with the Dublin team? DCU or UCD who gives a sh1t, it's still top quality infrastructure paid for by the university which Dublin gets to use and not pay for. Any county with a centre of excellence must staff it and pay for upkeep. Dublin do not.
omega man wrote: » threeball wrote: » You don't need a centre of excellence. You have the run of UCD and the best facilities in the country. Access to medical and performance specialists there too all funded by the taxpayer. Stop making ridiculous arguments and poor mouthing. Pure nonsense post. Did you read that on Twitter. Does the games development funding not reflect our population though? I keep hearing population is a significant advantage.
threeball wrote: » You don't need a centre of excellence. You have the run of UCD and the best facilities in the country. Access to medical and performance specialists there too all funded by the taxpayer. Stop making ridiculous arguments and poor mouthing.
Paulzx wrote: » .......so the players are all great accountants then? Not gifted footballers at the top of their game? Jesus:rolleyes:
Tombo2001 wrote: » I think that's the nub of the issue. The problem is that this blame game which I think is a very Irish thing. The system is broken - so people don't say "how can we fix it?"...… they say "who do we blame for it". I'm a bit sensitive about the whole "lets bash Dublin" thing, as though unlike yourself I amnt from Dublin, nonetheless I live in Dublin and I think overall (outside of GAA) Dublin receives less than it should as a % of total investment around the country considering the city's population and growth. There is no doubt, both in GAA and in society overall - that Dublin is subsidising the rest of the country big style. Big time. People banging on about how Dublin gets more than other counties 'from the GAA'. Where does the GAA get its revenue in the first place? Dublin matches have by far the biggest attendances of any games in the country. And yet you have the double whammy where country people want to take money out of Dublin on the one hand, and at the same time whinge and whinge about how those lads in the city get it all. So which is it - do people want to fix a problem.And there is no doubt a problem with a Leinster Championship where the same team wins for 10/15/20 years in a row. Or for that matter a munster championship also. Or do people just want to whinge.
Beta Ray Bill wrote: » Regardless, something needs to change. When the same team wins all the time, supporters get bored, and the situation gets worse for opposing teams knowing that it's near impossible for them to win. People just wont bother playing, cause what's the point?Disclaimer: I'm a Dub living on the Northside of Dublin
kyote00 wrote: » The funding per registered club shows only marginal extra cash to Dublin... Take the funding for the larger counties, divide by the number of registered clubs and it becomes clear that Dublin get less per club than a lot of the so called minnows.
beggars_bush wrote: » DCUs facilities are probably better. Better gyms anyway
omega man wrote: » Did you actually read this? One piece states: “Monaghan, for example, has a population of just 60,483 – so, in fact, its games development funding of €124,000 means it gets almost €2 per person, so about double what Dublin gets“. But but population... I also noted this beauty regarding capital grants: “While Dublin did not get any support under this heading, Cork’s cash under this heading included €1,333,334, with Laois getting €415,504 and Longford getting €1,065,196.”. It goes on to say when grants are excluded Dublin gets the most funding. How convenient.
kyote00 wrote: » Cork got 2.1m according to the GAA annual report !
rm75 wrote: » UCD? Dont Dublin train in DCU! Pretty much sums up the ill informed nonsense on here.
ClanofLams wrote: » Can’t look on phone but less than you I would guess.
omega man wrote: » RedDevil55 wrote: » Why would Dublin get any capital grants? They get free use of an 82,000 capacity stadium, which was paid for by everyone in the country. Meanwhile Pearse park in Longford needed to be repaired because of issues with the foundations. That is why they got a capital grant. There is a clear difference with games development money. Redevelopment of Parnell Park, new stadium maybe? I thought we shouldn’t be playing in croke Park for home matches.. Again we don’t even have a centre of excellence. The funding goes into kids for gods sake!
RedDevil55 wrote: » Why would Dublin get any capital grants? They get free use of an 82,000 capacity stadium, which was paid for by everyone in the country. Meanwhile Pearse park in Longford needed to be repaired because of issues with the foundations. That is why they got a capital grant. There is a clear difference with games development money.
omega man wrote: » Redevelopment of Parnell Park, new stadium maybe? I thought we shouldn’t be playing in croke Park for home matches.. Again we don’t even have a centre of excellence. The funding goes into kids for gods sake!
The high horse brigade wrote: » You sit back and watch as the rest of the country lose interest in the championship as the gulf widens as what's been happening in Leinster is now happening in the all Ireland. The touch site quotes every reply
Martina1991 wrote: » There are only 5 counties in Munster and 12 in Leinster. Even statistically its a lot easier to win with fewer opponents.
The high horse brigade wrote: » Yeah, They left out this bithttps://twitter.com/seanmcgoldrick1/status/1093268753725431808?s=21
omega man wrote: » What part of the article you posted clearly demonstrates a “huge disparity”?
The high horse brigade wrote: » What you think i wrote it? I'm just posting it here because it's relevant to this topic, one that is being discussed not just here but in conversations all over the country. There's a huge disaprity that needs to be addressed
omega man wrote: » Did you actually read this?
