mariaalice wrote: » Personality I would pay 20 cents more a kilogram for beef provided i was guaranteed it went to the producer farmer. On the other consumption of red meat is going to decline in the western world and farming in Ireland is going to become more commercialised and less and less part-time farmers.
Hotblack Desiato wrote: » Not going a great job of it are we then, a large proportion of potatoes are imported. Almost all that chippers use are imported from the UK.
CrankyHaus wrote: » Tbf there is a well established priority for any state to maintain agriculture so that if necessary we can survive great disruption without famine. This is an existential matter for the state
Amira Orange Sulfur wrote: » Irish agriculture mainly produces dairy and beef products, but is hugely dependent on imported cereals to feed livestock. So it's difficult to imagine how Irish farmers will supply the country with food when the zombie apocalypse comes about.
El Tarangu wrote: » In that case, we should turn over majority of the land currently used for beef production and use it to grow root vegetables & chick peas.
jimgoose wrote: » Diplometic immuni-TEH!!
IAMAMORON wrote: » So this is a Garda bashing thread Op? Please elaborate.
Vewy passive pal, please grow a pair.
I asked you to elaborate, no doubt you had notions of what direction you were hoping this really drab thread was going to go? Given how bland your opening argument of " why don't the cops beat up the farmers like they beat up the poor students and water protestors go " , I would have imagined you could have come up with a more robust response.
What is your point?
IAMAMORON wrote: » Vewy passive pal, please grow a pair. I asked you to elaborate, no doubt you had notions of what direction you were hoping this really drab thread was going to go? Given how bland your opening argument of " why don't the cops beat up the farmers like they beat up the poor students and water protestors go " , I would have imagined you could have come up with a more robust response. What is your point?
Amira Orange Sulfur wrote: » The Occupy protesters were camped out on Dame Street for months and nobody came to beat them off the streets.
Amira Orange Sulfur wrote: »
The Occupy protesters were camped out on Dame Street for months and nobody came to beat them off the streets.
Months well spent.
It is fine. Listen I respect that you started a thread to give yourself the opportunity to passively annihilate anyone who dare pass a comment on it.
So for the record here is my elaborated opinion, yours, not all that regrettably, remains outstanding. What is it?
But maybe, just maybe, the cops wouldn't be all that arsed getting booted up to go and attack a few hard working citizens who have decided to initiate a peaceful protest over an issue which actually counts towards their survival? It is probably highly likely that the Gards are empathising with the protestors in this instance.
Who is Fintan Cullen?
Like all good protest videos. Cuts to the Police doing something but never shows what happens the few seconds before to lead up to the police doing the "bad" thing.
IAMAMORON wrote: » It is fine. Listen I respect that you started a thread to give yourself the opportunity to passively annihilate anyone who dare pass a comment on it. So for the record here is my elaborated opinion, yours, not all that regrettably, remains outstanding. What is it? But maybe, just maybe, the cops wouldn't be all that arsed getting booted up to go and attack a few hard working citizens who have decided to initiate a peaceful protest over an issue which actually counts towards their survival? It is probably highly likely that the Gards are empathising with the protestors in this instance. Who is Fintan Cullen?
My point exactly, the Gards are obviously not currently under instruction to break up the protests. They don't want to either by the looks of things.
.... righto...
riffmongous wrote: »There was a few posts over in the Farming forum about disrupting supermarkets with nuisance tactics, i did wonder if they would attract the same level of outrage as other protesters if posted over hereE.g. filling up trolleys and then abandoning them at the checkout during the busy times, or at closing, arguing with managers at the till about the origin of the meat and then refusing to pay etc
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There was a few posts over in the Farming forum about disrupting supermarkets with nuisance tactics, i did wonder if they would attract the same level of outrage as other protesters if posted over here
E.g. filling up trolleys and then abandoning them at the checkout during the busy times, or at closing, arguing with managers at the till about the origin of the meat and then refusing to pay etc
The reason for some of those protests was a supermarket chain would not answer questions from farming organisations how they were selling beef so cheaply and where were they sourcing it.
You know they might have wanted to know if it was the old "Irish produce branding" which is basically foreign sourced and packaged here mullarkey.
A number of farmers entered supermarkets throughout the country, put as much non spoilable products into trolleys and then left. One farmer I heard of managed to get nearly 300 items into a trolley. Fair dues.
And as far as I know the supermarket chain initiated a call with the farming organisation the very next day. Result.
Maybe if more people had as much cop on and initiative big business and other large organisations would not be taking them always for a ride. The problem is too many people just shrug their shoulders and then moan down the pub or online.
Amira Orange Sulfur wrote: »Irish agriculture mainly produces dairy and beef products, but is hugely dependent on imported cereals to feed livestock. So it's difficult to imagine how Irish farmers will supply the country with food when the zombie apocalypse comes about.
Amira Orange Sulfur
Irish agriculture mainly produces dairy and beef products, but is hugely dependent on imported cereals to feed livestock. So it's difficult to imagine how Irish farmers will supply the country with food when the zombie apocalypse comes about.
Why should you care since aren't you over in the states probably eating hormone antibiotic laced meat reared on soya and maize.
AloneInTheDark wrote: » A lot of farmers voted Fine Gael in so they will be looking to protect their seats for the next election hence little action on the protests. With 90% of beef exported, the best leaving the country and then they want to stop other countries exporting to the EU it's not helping their argument.
AloneInTheDark wrote: » I'd have no issue paying a few cent extra if the quality of what we see here was improved but meat is no longer hung or processed properly.
AloneInTheDark wrote: » I'd say they are looking for a large increase which is not going to go down well. There are too many cattle including dairy and beef cattle, so this will affect supply and demand keeping prices low. Weather and climate change is not factored in by the EU where there is not enough feed or land for the population and it's going to get worse with the EU wanting more cattle. CAP was set up to protect the French farmers and is also keeping the price low, then add in Brexit. With UK leaving the farmers know there will be less money coming in from subsidies. The current setup is unsustainable and EU farming practices need to change.
Allinall wrote: » Farmers are downtrodden and don’t have Council houses.
jam_mac_jam wrote: » Of course. People look down on working class people and young people, farmers not so much. They have more of a right to an opinion. You can see it in some of the above comments already. And off they will go...
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