wrangler wrote: » IFA have got 100m for beef farmers plus protecting their BPS plus all the schemes, If non farmers knew what some ''real'' farmers were getting in the post in the next few weeks they wouldn't have a lot of sympathy but funnily that's not publicised but it's the reason that there's no money in beef, and rubbish calves are making uneconomical prices. Guys around here are reducing numbers, contract rearing and milking for dairy farmers if they need the money, and beef farming if they don't
wrangler wrote: » Protestors must be thinking of the Famine........ when there was nothing else to eat. If processors don't get their margin processing beef they'll either set up somewhere else or do something else. I said before that farmers are being brought to a cliff edge , I meant financially at the time but now it's both financially and mentally
mallethead2 wrote: » I don't post her much but I follow this forum every day and I had to post a reply to this. I'm one of those " real farmers" you're so quick to look down on I don't have a large BPS, I didn't get an installation grant and I am one of the lost generation the IFA didn't do a whole lot for !!!!!!!!!!!! I farm because I was lucky enough to get a piece of land from my parents and also to be able to buy another bit, I started out with 1 ewe and a calf i built up my herd of suckler cows and a flock of ewes.(I travelled the country buying the best foundation stock I could ) to build up and sell a quality product . to see you day in and day out ranting about part time farmers anyone who has a different view of the IFA to you is at this stage very tiresome While you have a different way and view of looking at things and your opinions I don't always agree with you are very insightful and I do look forward to reading your opinions. Could you please have less of the I'm right all the time attitude and maybe give your view of how things could be improved . That I do look forward to reading
Robson99 wrote: » Any storm brewing at the ploughing ? Have farmers protested at the retailers stands ? Where are Independent Farmers Reps ??
sjb25 wrote: » Kicked off at Bord bias tent security called
wrangler wrote: » They'll probably close it now, why would they bother
eorna wrote: » Cant understand why price cant be negotiated and is anti competitive.. Sure we can argue minimum wage is anti competitive. But it needs to be there in order to avoid “back to slavery times”. So if you have a business and are loosing money and cant pay your employees cant say.. sure there is no demand will give you 1€ /hour.. Why is the difference??
Muckit wrote: » Wrangler is like sports pundit. Agree with him or disagree with him, like him or loath him, he's compelling viewing by times and keeps the discussion lively!!
Robson99 wrote: » What did they expect ?? Chocolates and a bit of Craic??
wrangler wrote: » I don't differentiate between Part time and full time farmers, more often than not I see parttime farmers farming better than fulltime farmers, The real farmers was something I referred to a while back and the term was subject to some derision, it was used for'' real beef farmer'' as opposed to those protesting that sold only store cattle which appeared to be in the majority at the gates, even today I was reading an article where a factory said none of their suppliers were blocking the factory. Sure everyone on here thinks they're right all the time
cluray wrote: » lab man wrote: » will u go and have a talk with yer self Honestly how are you ever going to agree with thousands of farmers around the country if their reps from 7 representative groups go and endorse a deal only for them to fail to back it! Form another rep group to negotiate, then when u don't like what they get, go again and form another group, where does it end. Saving rural Ireland me h*le, more like screwing rural Ireland.
lab man wrote: » will u go and have a talk with yer self
longgonesilver wrote: » They should bother because their primary function is the promotion of Irish food. There are many, many consumers there today, a lot of them non farmers. Bord bia should never have got involved in the auditing of farmers, mills factories etc that was and still is the department's responsibility.
Reggie. wrote: » Did any of the meat companies pitch a tent
wrangler wrote: » No, again why would they
patsy_mccabe wrote: » The Pat Spillane of the farming forum.
longgonesilver wrote: » They are just duplicating the work the department should be doing. Nit picking things that a department inspector might just comment on or ignore. What happens if a Bord Bia inspector found something serious? It would be left to the department to sort. They could pick up a phone and ask department for a list of suitable farms.
Reggie. wrote: » Well they do usually be at the ploughing so your saying they didnt show up this year
riemann wrote: » I think we've all heard more than enough from you. Maybe time to put down the keyboard and wander outside.
Annabella1 wrote: » Am a self employed contractor myself - not a farmer Big problem in this country is the absolute statutory power of the competition authority which means prices cannot be collectively negotiated
