bogman_bass wrote: » On what grounds? Not getting what farmers want? That’s not why he’s there.
foundation10 wrote: » No show by minister at ploughing today, he says Dail business needs to be done instead!
Robson99 wrote: » Who will buy them if lads cannot get cattle killed ??
foundation10 wrote: » I also picked up from the interview this morning that the processing plants in the UK needed to be Bord Bia certified. Have Bord Bia confirmed they have certified these?
High bike wrote: » Incompetence and completely out of touch with the Dept he's supposed to be leading, and if he doesn't know it now he'll find out at the next election
coolshannagh28 wrote: » Farmers have stumbled onto power , wildcat tactics and the ballot box next May will ensure the balance shifts .
alps wrote: » Shift to where?
wrangler wrote: » Whole mess was a joke, did you think that creed was going to start buying cattle, This was started with no plan and then you cajoled Creed into trying to sort an impossible mess, MII didn't want to be there at the weekend. It was the protesters not MII that abused Creed into getting involved It was like a schoolyard and the bully calling for the headmaster. It's farmers that'll be broke now BECAUSE OF THE PROTESTS not the factory owners, but what do you care, time to let people sell their cattle
yosemitesam1 wrote: » The problem is that far too many people have no idea of business outside the farm gate and greatly overestimate selling price and underestimate costs of doing business. The average retail price of beef is under €9/kg. How many people on here have ever actually gone out and tried to get a product on a shelf and claim market share. It's not very easy at a small scale let alone trying to shift volume in a weak/flooded market
kerry cow wrote: » it's coming soon that farmers will stop rearing cattle , stop making fat cats out of the merc pilots . what are farmers to do . farm for a loss . maybe the ifa , creed and Teagasc , bord bia etc need to come clean . tell the farmers there's no money in beef , get out before they go broke . and the ifa can close shop . Teagasc can go back into there cave . bord bia won't be required any longer , thank God , talk about making a JOB for ones self , and creed should be voted out by the good people of cork .
Muckit wrote: » The problem is that far too many factories have no idea of business inside the farm gate and greatly underestimate the time effort and money it takes to rear beef cattle. Its next to impossible to rear an animal to 30 mths and make a margin. The factory market price has plummeted to under €3 50/kg. How many factory men on here have actually gone out and tried to make a living rearing beef cattle? It's not very easy. Not very easy at all.
handlemaster wrote: » that's an old saying, I know your having a laugh. But a lot of people still believe this , they can't see past , in short, the past. The capital tied up in land would be better serviced invested in other ventures. Then it comes down to the old ... sure what else would I do .... ??? Lots of other things would be the reply. In fact, the haggling over prices is just a result of poor choices taken by people to pursue a career over which they have very little control on the return that they get.
yewtree wrote: » I see people putting pictures up on social media of empty shelves on supermarkets, where beef should be and suggesting this is progress. I cannot get my head around such stupidity. Beef is under constant scrutiny and most of its negative the idea that taking it off shelves to push people towards other products is going to help farmers is mind boggling. If irish processors cant fill contracts in the uk it will be sourced somewhere else. There comes a point where farmers protesting are cutting off their nose to spite their face
Bass Reeves wrote: » You are totally wrong, incorrect , and blind Wrangler. The processors had a plan. After screwing finishers last winter they decided to screw store produce and summer grazer this summer. However they like the Minister, and all the boys in suits from Board Bia to farm organisations miss read this one. I am not blaming IFA, ICSA or ICMSA but a huge amount of disgruntled farmer went into the marts last winter on dark and wet nights. Meeting only stopped because cows were calving. Afterwards the boys in suits had a laugh and you have belittled( I will not use another word) these farmers. When this protest started the boys in suits miss read it. This sh!t of having meeting running 18+ hours and bulling/cajoling inexperienced negotiater's just to get adeal to try to get lads off the line. Then when it was settled MII trys to drop the base price again. F@@K that and that is what the protesters said and they blockaded them again. What did we get again another 18+hour session inexperienced negotiaters again bullied/cajoled into a deal and the lads in the suits clapping themselves on the back last Sunday morning. The real question is how have long established farm organisations misread the mood. Is it partly because of the injunctions, The processors made a mistake there. Now we have a mess but the resposibility for themess lies with the processors and the lads in suits
Robson99 wrote: » Someone needs to take hold of the situation. Shows what a joke the political set up is in this country they still on fukn holidays. I think lads at the gate should accept a base price of 3.75 for 3 months. Let the factories give this while reviews are on going in the background. If factories are unwilling to set a base price of 3.75 then we are ****ed. Stop the ****e acting with stopping sheep being slaughtered. It would be much more beneficial to just blockade the marts and bring beef trade to a complete stop as the only one really suffering now is the lad at the end of the line in both sheep and beef. Creed come out from behind the curtain and show some ****in respect to the people who have put you where you are today.
Bass Reeves wrote: » Its immaterial to farmers , like many you fail to understand it is a processor/retailer issue to solve now not a farmer issue.
yewtree wrote: » I am sorry, i dont understand this at all. Reduction in the size of the beef market will have no effect on supermarkets. They will just sell shoppers something else.
wrangler wrote: » Protestors must be thinking of the Famine........ when there was nothing else to eat. If processors don't get their margin processing beef they'll either set up somewhere else or do something else. I said before that farmers are being brought to a cliff edge , I meant financially at the time but now it's both financially and mentally
Danzy wrote: » The Beef plan was the backlash, final roll of the dice. If they can't divide the price in a reasonable way or can't afford to do so then the processors need to go, along with beef farming. As is, the factories seem to not mind beef farming going to the wall, at the least they got a hop from this. If they had there way we'd be near to 3 a kg base. Yet we don't see many of them calling up the Chinese for a buy out. That doesn't change the point that a lot if people with Sucklers will have to change to dairy bred animals, and people will need to be extensive rather than intensive. If people are doing things like 10,20 years ago them they are going to have serious problems.
riemann wrote: » I think we've all heard more than enough from you. Maybe time to put down the keyboard and wander outside.
