Emmanuel Lemon Louse wrote: » Shots fired! "234,092 amber premises covered" apparently.https://www.imagine.ie
Rivals say they are unable to connect customers to company’s new fibre network A row has broken out in the telecoms industry over the quality of Eir’s new fibre broadband network to 300,000 rural households which were formerly part of the State-backed National Broadband Plan (NBP). … Despite Eir’s claims that it has successfully completed the project, passing the 300,000 homes with its fibre product, non-Eir operators using the network claim there are insufficient “dropping points” to connect prospective customers. They also claim that “fail rates” on the network where operators try to connect customers but fail are as high as 12 per cent. Their grievances were aired at Eir’s own industry product forum on Wednesday, according to industry sources.
Eir denied there was an issue with the rollout of fibre to 300,000 homes. “Open Eir [the company’s wholesale arm] has not to date encountered a significant issue with the availability of drop points within the 300,000,” a spokesman said. A spokesperson for the Department of Communications was not available.
celticbhoy27 wrote: » Is it the 20th that is the cut off for commercial operators to submit offers to supply areas in the nbp zone? Thankfully doesn't look like any are making an application. Had been murmurings imagine would.
Nyum Nyum wrote: » This is never going to happen, is it?
KOR101 wrote: » Nice to see the word fibre firmly stated. Rural Ireland "does not have a future in the 21st century" unless fibre broadband is delivered to every home, Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has warned. In an exclusive interview with the Irish Independent, the Taoiseach insisted that the Government was right to push ahead with the controversial National Broadband Plan.https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/rural-life/no-future-for-rural-ireland-without-fibre-broadband-taoiseach-38505221.html
Mr Varadkar said the Government was determined to get fibre on poles next year.
Messer1 wrote: » According to the Sunday Business Post, the NBP plans to roll out services to an initial 350 key strategic community points using WIRELESS! These will be progressively replaced by fibre, presumably once the NBP has (expensively) rolled out its own fibre alongside eir's stuff. Meantime, SpaceX has indicated that it plans to launch 120-240 Starlink sats later this year and, all going well, will launch up to 1,400 next year depending on demand for its rideshare service which will charge at $5k per kg.
Messer1 wrote: » According to the Sunday Business Post, the NBP plans to roll out services to an initial 350 key strategic community points using WIRELESS! These will be progressively replaced by fibre.
We're determined to do this. And we will do it as quickly as possible
celticbhoy27 wrote: » Didn't get to tune in. Any new info come from the interview?
The Cush wrote: » Minister Richard Bruton on RTÉ's This Week programme at 1.00pm today, discussion includes the NBP.
Grab All Association wrote: » https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/rollout-of-3bn-national-broadband-plan-delayed-yet-again-38498568.html Delayed again, thanks to Timmy O’Tool no doubt.
ussjtrunks wrote: » I wonder how the bidder for the contract feels about all this faffing about
Sources are blaming a report by the Oireachtas Communications Committee, which wants the broadband network infrastructure to remain in public ownership. But it is understood some work has yet to be completed before the deal with the Granahan McCourt consortium is sealed. …The Department of Communications did not confirm the delay, but said "work to award the NBP State intervention contract is subject to contract close, including finalisation of financial and legal documents".
the Fine Gael parliamentary party unanimously passed a motion last Friday which stated that the Government should proceed as planned. Mr Bruton said he will not be reassessing the tender process but is determined to ensure that the contract is robust.
Mr Bruton said his department is working "at maximum speed" to get the deal finalised but declined to set a new deadline. Asked when the project would be shovel-ready, Mr Bruton said: "I'm determined that we move as quickly as possible to that point. But, equally, I'm very much aware that I have a responsibility to the people of Ireland to conduct the due diligence to see that this is a robust contract."
The Oireachtas Communications Committee has compiled a report which calls on the Government to review the process of awarding the contract. Just one bidder remained in what was supposed to be a competitive tender by the time the contract was awarded. … He said he will compile a "detailed response" to the committee which will be considered by Cabinet before the contract is signed. Mr Bruton said there are some "very practical" suggestions from TDs that will be considered. One the ideas under consideration is Green Party leader Eamon Ryan's proposal that new houses built within the intervention area should have to pay a fee towards the installation of the high-speed broadband. "But we will look through all of the detail and I will go back to Government with the detailed response. We're determined to do this. And we will do it as quickly as possible," Mr Bruton said.
Mr Bruton said he will not be reassessing the tender process but is determined to ensure that the contract is robust. "We don't envisage any initiative that would require restarting the process. And, unfortunately, some of the proposals made would involve completely restarting the processes. That would add five years to the project and this simply could not be countenanced," the minister said.
Mr Bruton said his department is working "at maximum speed" to get the deal finalised but declined to set a new deadline.
The deferral is a blow to the Government as it believed the symbolism of finally getting the project off the ground during the Ploughing Championships would play well with rural voters.
By providing very high speed broadband coverage in areas of the country where private operators have no commercial interest to invest in the near future, the Greek authorities pursue genuine cohesion and economic development objectives, in line with the broadband support policy of the EU, as reflected in the EU2020, DAE and the Gigabit Communication. Therefore, the present aid measure will contribute to the achievement of the objectives of the EU2020/DAE and of the Gigabit Communication and is therefore in line with the common interest.
...the Gigabit Communication sets out further targets in order to respond to technological developments and future needs: by 2025 all European households, rural or urban,should have access to broadband networks offering a download speed of at least 100 Mbps, which can be upgraded to 1 Gbps, and socio-economic drivers should have access to speeds up to 1 Gbps symmetric.
The Greek authorities define the target areas and the services to be provided based on speeds that can be reliably delivered to the end-user. ‘Reliable’ speeds per subscriber are understood as speeds that can be guaranteed at peak times.
Pique wrote: » https://www.independent.ie/business/irish/magnet-networks-open-to-possible-merger-interest-38490049.html Is this in any way connected to NBP suppliers/contractors perchance?
Messer1 wrote: » . My belated response … The underlying objective of the NBP is to deliver H-S BB to rural users, not specifically to run fibre everywhere. I was concerned about the total cost of the NBP (€5 bn including taxpayers net €2.5 bn). If, say, 100k users (20% of current IA which may shrink much further) take up fibre, the total cost works out at €50k/user with €25k/user coming for taxpayers. These are huge sums by any measure. My submission only sought to make the case that next-gen sats could be a PART of the NBP and help achieve the its objective at much lower cost. The prime recommendation was that an independent, expert study be undertaken by space technologists/economists to establish what roles LEO sats etc. could play (go, no-go or maybe). At worst, this might delay the NBP by a few months and cost a tiny fraction of the €25 mln already spent on consultants. I also urged that fibre be rolled out as quickly as possible to 1000+ BB connection points using a State-funded SPV (this wouldn't break EU rules if/when the IA has been defined). As this is happening, the actual potential/role of sats etc. would become much clearer (performances, charges, time-lines etc.) and the NBP could be rejigged.
