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charolais0153

Just a thread for miscellaneous questions that don't deserve their own thread iykwim .

Does anyone know what this is? Took this picture a few months ago and she healed after a while through injections and formalin

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razor8

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

What did you get paid for that specific lamb?

Had he hogget teeth and used that grade to pay a different price per kg?

MeTheMan

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

What did you get paid for that specific lamb?

Same as the rest. Up to the 21kg at 4.90. 102.9 before deductions.

ganmo

MeTheMan wrote: »

Same as the rest. Up to the 21kg at 4.90. 102.9 before deductions.

I hate seeing the factories getting so much free meat

Siamsa Sessions

ganmo wrote: »

I hate seeing the factories getting so much free meat

It means they don't have to pay as much for the rest of it too. Free meat = lower price.

MeTheMan

In that batch they got 50kg of meat for nothing. 250 odd euro gone or fat trimmed as they would tell ya. Our own fault really as we were waiting for withdrawl from dip.
We also got 5 killed for the freezer (anyone want to buy half/full lamb carcass

) heavier lambs that killed out at 25kg, had some yesterday and there was no excessive amounts of fat. Total bull!!

wrangler

MeTheMan wrote: »

In that batch they got 50kg of meat for nothing. 250 odd euro gone or fat trimmed as they would tell ya. Our own fault really as we were waiting for withdrawl from dip.
We also got 5 killed for the freezer (anyone want to buy half/full lamb carcass ) heavier lambs that killed out at 25kg, had some yesterday and there was no excessive amounts of fat. Total bull!!

Chops don't fit in the trays and the legs are too expensive

Dinzee Conlee

MeTheMan wrote: »

In that batch they got 50kg of meat for nothing. 250 odd euro gone or fat trimmed as they would tell ya. Our own fault really as we were waiting for withdrawl from dip.
We also got 5 killed for the freezer (anyone want to buy half/full lamb carcass ) heavier lambs that killed out at 25kg, had some yesterday and there was no excessive amounts of fat. Total bull!!

Well, the flip side is we know the spec, its up to us as farmers to fit that spec.

There is a butcher market for heavier lambs, I know its prob not as big a market, but still...

MeTheMan

wrangler wrote: »

Chops don't fit in the trays and the legs are too expensive

I don't believe it. You're talking mm on a pack of chops. Meat isn't ridged! The leg being too expensive makes some sense but yet they will be paying 22kg+ in a few months time?

Do you think they really trim 'excess' away?

wrangler

MeTheMan wrote: »

I don't believe it. You're talking mm on a pack of chops. Meat isn't ridged! The leg being too expensive makes some sense but yet they will be paying 22kg+ in a few months time?

Do you think they really trim 'excess' away?

You've obviously never seen them filling the trays, be worth your while in ICM camolin if they allow you, there's a tiny tiny difference in the weight of the packs of four chops, bigger chops just wouldn't fit, they have to ''encourage'' farmers to send in the right size lambs.
Don't know how they adjust for heavier lambs in autumn
They can sell a percentage of lambs at 23+kg but not them all

MeTheMan

Seen it in ballyhaunis Dawn Meats. Got fed the usually stuff. He also claimed there profit margin was 2%. I was too quiet a person to question him on it in front of a group.
So they buy a lamb at 100, by the time it comes out the other end of the factory and is sold they have made 2 euro. It seems small but at 5k lambs a week it adds up. But what allows for the 2% profit when prices can go from 4.50-6.50 in the year.

Edit* that packing I seen was beef come to think of it.

kk.man

MeTheMan wrote: »

Seen it in ballyhaunis Dawn Meats. Got fed the usually stuff. He also claimed there profit margin was 2%. I was too quiet a person to question him on it in front of a group.
So they buy a lamb at 100, by the time it comes out the other end of the factory and is sold they have made 2 euro. It seems small but at 5k lambs a week it adds up. But what allows for the 2% profit when prices can go from 4.50-6.50 in the year.

Edit* that packing I seen was beef come to think of it.

The margin in sheep meat is around 2 or 3% but as you say 5k lambs per week is where the money is at. If skins take a knocking the farmer will not see much of a price rise. The big money is in beef and the sheep plants are the 'poor' relation.

Dickie10

has anyone seen that ewe throughput numbers are 50% ahead of where they were in irish factories last year. this means northern and english ewes are being culled off at a huge rate, should leave the price good for hoggets and spring lamb next april and into the following march/april/may 2021

ganmo

Dickie10 wrote: »

has anyone seen that ewe throughput numbers are 50% ahead of where they were in irish factories last year. this means northern and english ewes are being culled off at a huge rate, should leave the price good for hoggets and spring lamb next april and into the following march/april/may 2021

https://www.bordbia.ie/farmers-growers/farmers/prices-markets/sheep-throughput/

irish factories are down 20% not up 50%, current hogget prices would suggest more ppl buying breeding animals too

Yes NI and UK are up in their slaughter figures but brexit would be a factor there

Dinzee Conlee

Dickie10 wrote: »

has anyone seen that ewe throughput numbers are 50% ahead of where they were in irish factories last year. this means northern and english ewes are being culled off at a huge rate, should leave the price good for hoggets and spring lamb next april and into the following march/april/may 2021

Ah Dickie, you're only saying that cos you're busing store lambs up from Kenmare at a woeful rate...

roosky

knackers yard is closed due to strikes and a sheep is dead...what are my options

ganmo

roosky wrote: »

knackers yard is closed due to strikes and a sheep is dead...what are my options

Ring the dept, that's the advise at the min

Buford T. Justice XIX

roosky wrote: »

knackers yard is closed due to strikes and a sheep is dead...what are my options

Ring the Dept was the advice I was given when ringing for an animal on Tuesday. I reckon they will have to issue burial licences if it's not sorted by tomorrow morning.

Lambman

Thinking on spreading 18-6-12 for grazing middle off next week with this good weather forecast. Anybody still spreading can? Anybody know soul tempatures?

MIKEKC

Lambman wrote: »

Thinking on spreading 18-6-12 for grazing middle off next week with this good weather forecast. Anybody still spreading can? Anybody know soul tempatures?

Do you not know the rules governing the spreading of artificial fertilizer?

Buford T. Justice XIX

Lambman wrote: »

Thinking on spreading 18-6-12 for grazing middle off next week with this good weather forecast. Anybody still spreading can? Anybody know soul tempatures?

Saturday is the last day for spreading artifical N and P on the farm

Green farmer

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

Saturday is the last day for spreading artifical N and P on the farm

Spread the last of fert here two days ago and now finished for the season. Cannt understand the fert laws. If common sense prevailed, they’d allow spreading sept/ oct , instead of January / feb.

Cran

MeTheMan wrote: »

In that batch they got 50kg of meat for nothing. 250 odd euro gone or fat trimmed as they would tell ya. Our own fault really as we were waiting for withdrawl from dip.
We also got 5 killed for the freezer (anyone want to buy half/full lamb carcass ) heavier lambs that killed out at 25kg, had some yesterday and there was no excessive amounts of fat. Total bull!!

Killed two Jan pedigree lambs here last year first week in August, one got hurt & other had fertility issues. Carcase’s were 38kg and 45kg, absolutely fantastic meat best had in long time and very little fat but everything was huge 1/2 legs were like large full normal ones ðŸ˜‚

Lambman

Didn't realize Saturday was these last day till be honest. Stupid rule can't get a dry day this week till go at it and giving a great week next week.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Lambman wrote: »

Didn't realize Saturday was these last day till be honest. Stupid rule can't get a dry day this week till go at it and giving a great week next week.

You can still spread K and Granlime after Saturday...

Green farmer

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

You can still spread K and Granlime after Saturday...

Can you get k by its self ?

Edit, just remembered, the muriah of potash bags !!!

Lambman

You can't spread in the weather we had this last 3 weeks have till be done Saturday then so &#55357;&#56841;&#55357;&#56841;

farawaygrass

If lambs are making maggots now Cause they are gone past the treatment time of clikzin, would ye go again with clik, seen it’s so late in the year? These are lambs I’ll be keeping for breeding

razor8

farawaygrass wrote: »

If lambs are making maggots now Cause they are gone past the treatment time of clikzin, would ye go again with clik, seen it’s so late in the year? These are lambs I’ll be keeping for breeding

Get them sheared this week would be my advice

Green farmer

Was tired of seeing near factory / butcher ready lambs getting destroyed, so did mine with clikzin last weekend. 7 day withdrawal, so can go back to selling them again this week.

wrangler

Green farmer wrote: »

Was tired of seeing near factory / butcher ready lambs getting destroyed, so did mine with clikzin last weekend. 7 day withdrawal, so can go back to selling them again this week.

Maggots are vicious this time of the year