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Fire in Douglas - See Mod note in post #506

BurnsCarpenter

Anyone know what's going on? Looks close to m & s maybe.

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beer enigma

corkboy38 wrote: »

How likely is it that the claim will be against the drivers insurance rather than the centre/Car park?

Fire insurance works slightly differently to other forms in that you have to prove deliberate negligence or a manufacturing fault. If a car next to yours catches fire and damages yours, you can only claim against the other car if you can prove that the car caught fire because of the negligence of the owner. In this case while she 'may' be negligent in driving in (yet to be proven) I don't see the fire in her vehicle was caused by negligence on her part, therefore the other cars would have to claim from their own insurance. The only other way is if this is proven to be a manufacturing fault in which case your insurer will seek to reclaim from the manufacturers insurance.

Tin Foil Hat

bot43 wrote: »

Ha, Ive been given a name of who the driver was and where that person lives and what the person does for a living.

The person is completely unapologetic and is blaming the security guard who she told about it and will be suing the shopping centre.

I hope this is true.

Maria Bailey?

JohnK

Interesting, I'd heard there was a good bit of water damage in TKMax as well. Given how far apart those units are you'd expect a good few more must surely be damaged too.

airy fairy

TheDriver wrote: »

From people who work in there and have entered, there is no damage as such except Marks as the door comes in from where the fire was.

According to an article from rte, who interviewed the owner a few days ago, O'Briens was seriously water damaged...

TheDriver

JohnK wrote: »

Has there been any video or photos released of the inside of the shopping center itself? Be interesting to see what sort of state its in.

From people who work in there and have entered, there is no damage as such except Marks as the door comes in from where the fire was.

TheChizler

bot43 wrote: »

Ha, Ive been given a name of who the driver was and where that person lives and what the person does for a living.

The person is completely unapologetic and is blaming the security guard who she told about it and will be suing the shopping centre.

I hope this is true.

I'm going to take that with a massive grain of salt, as I've heard the opposite (which I also am slow to believe) and I'm always more suspicious of unconfirmed stories with juicy detail that seem designed to fuel outrage.

Doesn't even make sense, why would you threaten to sue somebody at this early stage while an investigation is under way when your insurance will in all likelyhood cover you for fire? Sounds made up to me, not by you of course.

zilog_jones

I don't think it's been confirmed if the recalls were performed on the car in question - there were three recalls for the same issue on the Zafira B, so it's not impossible that the problem was still not resolved.

Be right back

bot43 wrote: »

Ha, Ive been given a name of who the driver was and where that person lives and what the person does for a living.

The person is completely unapologetic and is blaming the security guard who she told about it and will be suing the shopping centre.

I hope this is true.

Seriously? Is it true she received a couple of recall letters and ignored them?

bot43

Ha, Ive been given a name of who the driver was and where that person lives and what the person does for a living.

The person is completely unapologetic and is blaming the security guard who she told about it and will be suing the shopping centre.

I hope this is true.

JohnK

Has there been any video or photos released of the inside of the shopping center itself? Be interesting to see what sort of state its in.

airy fairy

corkboy38 wrote: »

How likely is it that the claim will be against the drivers insurance rather than the centre/Car park?

Very likely.
Owners park cars at their own risk so I presume that still stands in the event something happens their cars through the fault of something outside the fault of the car park.

corkboy38

How likely is it that the claim will be against the drivers insurance rather than the centre/Car park?

Justin Credible Darts

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

TBH I'm holding judgment on the rumours that she drove in with the car on fire. I've heard she went in with a little bit of smoke, I've heard the car was an inferno as we drove in.

But theres been nothing official about what actually happened.

common sense would tell any rational person that if you see smoke or think there is a chance of fire, you do not park it alongside other cars in an area where people could be congregating.

No doubt in this day and age where the majority of people never take responsibility for their own actions, the blame will be laid somewhere else.

Chris_5339762

TBH I'm holding judgment on the rumours that she drove in with the car on fire. I've heard she went in with a little bit of smoke, I've heard the car was an inferno as we drove in.

But theres been nothing official about what actually happened.

Gaspode

Close the thread you say?
Why yes good friends I can absolutely do that for you, and I surely will if you keep sniping at one another.
Try to recover the lost of art of grown-up discussion and ease off the personal remarks, thanks very much

TheChizler

bot43 wrote: »

Peak boards.ie. Close the thread. Ban everyone who isn’t have a solemn staid conversation based solely on fact.

Honestly I wonder how some people get through the day.

No one's asking to close the thread, just asking people to think before making up stories about and insulting the intelligence of someone they've never met who probably feels pretty sh#t about a bad split second decision they made (assuming they were even aware of the issue) and is very possibly reading this. Is it peak boards to ask people to have some decency?

Odelay

bot43 wrote: »

Peak boards.ie. Close the thread. Ban everyone who isn’t have a solemn staid conversation based solely on fact.

Honestly I wonder how some people get through the day.

I didn’t say close the thread, I merely voiced my opinion? Can I do that? Or is it “Peak boards.ie” not to be able to voice an opinion?

bot43

TheChizler wrote: »

We're going off absolutely nothing but rumours and you're feeding the mill by exaggerating them. There's no need for it.

Odelay wrote: »

I think it’s very unfair to be speculating without facts.
When rumors spread it’s the most interesting versions that become popular, not those based on fact.

Peak boards.ie. Close the thread. Ban everyone who isn’t have a solemn staid conversation based solely on fact.

Honestly I wonder how some people get through the day.

Cork Trucker

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

never underestimate the sheer stupidity of some people.

Lots of lessons are being learned, stupidity is a two way street you know

Cork Trucker

TheChizler wrote: »

We're going off absolutely nothing but rumours and you're feeding the mill by exaggerating them. There's no need for it.

I'm solely responsible for exaggerating them? better call in the firing squad to sort me out then.

I'm doing what pretty much everyone else is doing, discussing what is alleged to have happened, there's one for your detectives pipe.

Justin Credible Darts

Cork Trucker wrote: »

I genuinely think we will never see the likes of this again in Ireland.

never underestimate the sheer stupidity of some people.

Odelay

I mean that one foot should be kept on the ground. There was one poster here who thought it was a disgrace that there was no facility to allow fire trucks drive into a burning building.....

Cork Trucker

Odelay wrote: »

I think it’s very unfair to be speculating without facts.
When rumors spread it’s the most interesting versions that become popular, not those based on fact.

I'm merely discussing speculation already in the public domain. I very much look forward to the facts being published nonetheless as will most here.

Odelay

Cork Trucker wrote: »

I wouldn't be alone on that to be fair.

Until a thorough investigation is concluded we can merely speculate dear Sir

I think it’s very unfair to be speculating without facts.
When rumors spread it’s the most interesting versions that become popular, not those based on fact.

TheChizler

We're going off absolutely nothing but rumours and you're feeding the mill by exaggerating them. There's no need for it.

Cork Trucker

TheChizler wrote: »

In your mind, maybe :rolleyes:

I wouldn't be alone on that to be fair.

Until a thorough investigation is concluded we can merely speculate dear Sir

Cork Trucker

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

no idea, but if true she should face criminal charges

No matter what charges if any, the penalty would be minimal if any.

"But yer honour my client is a single mother of x amount of children and was blissfully unaware of what was going on around her"

I have no doubt the lady will be named eventually, imagine what her neighbours must think of her though, i know if she was my neighbour i would have some very impolite words to say.

Just say the car was outside the car park and smoke was coming from it, abandon the damn thing and call 999/112. I genuinely think we will never see the likes of this again in Ireland.

TheChizler

Cork Trucker wrote: »

Customer Service Representative: Yes madam indeed i do.

Lady looking for quote: Yes that was me, i drove my car which was billowing smoke, into an enclosed multi-storey car park and parked it next to 60 cars and allowed it to become engulfed in flames before i decided to look for help.

In your mind, maybe :rolleyes:

Cork Trucker

bladespin wrote: »

Probably something along the lines of: 'D'ya remember that shopping centre that was in Douglas?'

Customer Service Representative: Yes madam indeed i do.

Lady looking for quote: Yes that was me, i drove my car which was billowing smoke, into an enclosed multi-storey car park and parked it next to 60 cars and allowed it to become engulfed in flames before i decided to look for help.

Justin Credible Darts

the beer revolu wrote: »

Is the story that the woman drove into the carpark with a smoking car verified or is it still hearsay?

no idea, but if true she should face criminal charges