Qrt wrote: » It’s a bit ironic to say the heart and soul of Templeogue Village will be lost considering the main pub is called The Morgue.
riddlinrussell wrote: » Strongly disagreeing with you here simply because you may be underestimating just how far €2bn would stretch for cycling. When the NI minister for transport announced a network of greenways criss-crossing the entirety of Northern Ireland the total outlay was 600 million for the whole thing (Obviously city costs are greater but given the minuscule land take comparatively for good cycling provision...). Spending 2 billion on a Dublin cycle network would utterly transform how people get around the city, if done following a Dutch model. You'd be talking about being able to fully segregate every core corridor, many feeder corridors, high quality greenways through most parks. Cost to benefit cycling is WAY out in front of the others, I'm not suggesting it would suit all people and obviously a strong public transport network is a must to compliment cycling, but if we ever had €2 billion to play with for cycling the city would be radically different.
blanch152 wrote: » Cycling is predominantly for the young, the fit and the mostly male. Every equality agenda screams for the prioritising of accessible public transport infrastructure ahead of cycling infrastructure.
tom1ie wrote: » Cycling gets you fit. cycling can be used to commute that last mile after the workhorses of pt (bus, luas, heavy rail) get you within a mile of your workplace/home. you are correct that 3 out of 4 cyclist are male.define young?
tom1ie wrote: » Cycling gets you fit. cycling can be used to commute that last mile after the workhorses of pt (bus, luas, heavy rail) get you within a mile of your workplace/home. you are correct that 3 out of 4 cyclist are male. define young?
Zebra3 wrote: » If that’s the situation it’s because of the intimidation cyclists face on the roads from motorists. So let’s bring about equality and allow as many as possible to use their commuting time for an environmentally friendly, cheap, and fitness benefiting way of getting to and from their work places/colleges etc.
Last Stop wrote: » No it’s because of a number of factors such as distance, appropriate facilities either side, age, dropping kids to school etc etc. Blaming motorists is a lazy out when there are a significant number of commutes which have fully segregated cycle lanes along their entire length and yet only 10% of people choose to cycle.
Zebra3 wrote: » Blaming motorists is a lazy out? Have a look at the death toll for cyclists.
Last Stop wrote: » But motorists aren’t the only reason why people aren’t cycling as you imply.
LeinsterDub wrote: » Motorist are the primary reasons people don't cycle. Either because they are being a lazy motorist and driving 2 km or are driving like dicks
Last Stop wrote: » There is absolutely no evidence to back up that opinion and to be perfectly honest I’d go as far as saying that is completely bull****. This is the big problem with cyclists, they give out all day long about motorists which isn’t going to change anything instead of complaining about the real problems such as why the dublinbikes scheme hasn’t been expanded at anywhere near the rate it should have given its incredible success.
LeinsterDub wrote: » Which part? That our infrastructure is hostile to cycling. That's fairly self evident as for the second part https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/more-than-half-of-travellers-use-cars-for-journeys-under-2km-1.2303451%3fmode=amp
Last Stop wrote: » Ahhh so you’re bringing infrastructure into it now. So it’s not just motorists. I’m guessing there are other factors to blame too except the fact that a significant number of people don’t like to cycle for whatever reason. Because of this, if we are to seriously reduce congestion we need to invest in public transport and bringing this whole thing back on topic, trams are a far more efficient way of doing that than buses.
Albert Tobin and his fiancée bought their house on Crumlin Road before any rumblings of Bus Connects. Mr Tobin, an architect, says he and his partner cycle everywhere. Under the Bus Connects plans, the young couple will lose about two metres of their front garden. "It equates to about 32 square metres to the front of the house," Mr Tobin said. There is also one "nice" tree on the Crumlin Road, a cherry blossom - which sits right outside his house. "We are new to the area, we love the area. It's a great place to live," he said."Would we have bought if the garden was two metres shorter originally? Probably. But would we have bought if it had been on the side of a four-lane road? No. It's going to go from a busy two-lane road to a four-lane motorway." Mr Tobin believes an extra bus lane could fit on the Crumlin Road without any land acquisition."If we rationalised the land, reduced footpath widths, it could be done," he said. "Public transport in the city needs to be upgraded, nobody objects to that. If they had said we are putting a Luas line outside your house, it would have been easier to stomach."
There is also one "nice" tree on the Crumlin Road, a cherry blossom - which sits right outside his house. "We are new to the area, we love the area. It's a great place to live," he said."Would we have bought if the garden was two metres shorter originally? Probably. But would we have bought if it had been on the side of a four-lane road? No. It's going to go from a busy two-lane road to a four-lane motorway."
Seth Brundle wrote: » Why did those cyclists die?
Muahahaha wrote: » Anyway its seems the Indo have a hard on for this now. We will ever get to see one of these real life articles about a couple who live further out and are spending ages on slow moving buses stuck in traffic every day? Or is it just the people who are living around the canals who matter?
"Why is everything aimed at being on the road? Nothing is about taking things off the road," she added.
Zebra3 wrote: » From injuries attained after being hit by motor vehicles.
Zebra3 wrote: » It is not a majority that want to drive their car anywhere any time. It’s a minority who have been given a disproportionate amount of publicity and who have politicians bending over backwards to accommodate them and their bs.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » My 66 year old mother and 69 year old father regularly go on 20 or 30km cycles on normal bikes in normal clothes. They're not particularly into fitness or anything either and live like normal people like a few drinks etc. Anyway. Bus connects or metro wont happen. The majority seem to want to be able to drive their cars anywhere at any time. I've accepted this now. At this stage I'm thinking the best thing for pedestrians and cyclists is to keep allowing more and more cars to clog the streets until it gets so bad they can barely move. Total gridlock means less chance of being hit by a car!
Bambi wrote: » Can you throw up the figures for cycling deaths for Dublin in the last 2-3 years?
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