Most dangerous and anti social housing estate in Ireland

Although saying that even when i hung around there back in the dizzle it was a right kip

sugarman wrote: »

Exactly, it's less than 20 metre's away from Ard Mor and Mac Ulliam!

Neither of which are part of Jobstown. There is also Russell Square, Mountain View, Swiftbrook and Brookview Estates between Jobstown and that Lidl, but don't let that get in the way of your prejudice.

AulWan wrote: »

Neither of which are part of Jobstown. There is also Russell Square, Mountain View, Swiftbrook and Brookview Estates between Jobstown and that Lidl, but don't let that get in the way of your prejudice.

Nobody knows it as that.......................SUNDALE

CrankyHaus

I do a fair amount of work out in Tallaght, particularly West Tallaght. While the areas can be a bit hairy (eg The Ruseller or Donomore Crescent) people are generally open enough to outsiders strolling through. Maybe it's just all the open space and views out there at the foot of the mountains and the edge of the city.

Other rough areas can be far more insular, generally the kind full of clowns boasting about their "close knit community", which seems to be code for a distrustful shower of bowsies shooting daggers (and worse) at any car or person they don't recognise. Traditional inner city rough areas are often like this, and Ballymun/Poppintree seems to have an aggro menteller vibe of the same kind. Oddly The Liberties, easily the most close knit inner city spot, isn't particularly unfriendly.

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

AulWan wrote: »

...except, its not.

Its Citywest. Don't let that put you off one of the buying one of the new 400k houses in the private development that backs onto it.

The new built store is lovely.

It's fortunestown actually and yes the new store is nice there but the clientele are mostly unemployed scum from all walks of life and cultures

Citywest actually starts after Ard Mhor before the junction. It's called Citywest Drive, and the School there is Scoil Aoife, Citywest.

AulWan wrote: »

Citywest actually starts after Ard Mhor before the junction. It's called Citywest Drive, and the School there is Scoil Aoife, Citywest.

What are ye talking about? Lidl is in fortunestown

SEPT 23 1989

the councils are buying up so many houses in new developments that many people will be living next to council tenants in the next few years

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

AulWan wrote: »

Neither of which are part of Jobstown. There is also Russell Square, Mountain View, Swiftbrook and Brookview Estates between Jobstown and that Lidl, but don't let that get in the way of your prejudice.

Nobody knows it as that.......................SUNDALE

The road names start with Sundale, but the Estate name is Mountain View, and always was. Also not part of Jobstown.

AulWan wrote: »

The road names start with Sundale, but the Estate name is Mountain View, and always was. Also not part of Jobstown.

Nobody and i mean nobody refers to it as Mountain View. It is known around the area as Sundale but you seem the pedantic type going by your argumentative previous replies to other posters also

The J Stands for Jay

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

I feel I'm under informed on this. Can we do a nationwide tour of the 100 worst estates and then convene for a vote?

New TV show idea for rte.

The J Stands for Jay

partyguinness wrote: »

Having grown up in the countryside, my parents large self build detached house is in the middle of protected woodland. We cannot see other houses, own water supply, cannot see or hear other traffic and on a private road. But yet only 15 minutes walk to shop and pubs and main road.

Housing estates are an alien concept to me and generally fill me with horror and confusion that large swathes of the population live if such third world conditions.

And to think city folk like to call us culchies. It is a compliment. You live on a council estate ffs....or some wankly named Celtic Tiger housing estate negative equity ****show.

Oh yeah....(takes giant smug nasal inhalation)..:D

Ok, we'll just keep this thread for people who don't live with mammy

hatrickpatrick

Don't know if sprawling apartment complexes properly count as "estates", but the large group of blocks on your left as you walk Northwards along Basin Street are properly terrifying after dark, as is most of the surrounding area. Fights, random verbal abuse of passers by, fires, the place is like a feckin' war zone (or at least it was back in and around 2014-15). Surprisingly quiet during the day for somewhere that goes to utter sh!t at night, such that I used to use it as a shortcut before making the mistake of walking through it on my way home from a sesh.

Another one which comes to mind not too far away form these was Teresa's Gardens on Donore Avenue, I never lived near it myself but some of my friends had a rented gaff directly beside it on Darley's Terrace and let's just say you found out fairly quickly how a lovely two story house could be so beautifully affordable for rent! There was a recording and practise studio down the road (Unit 1) and in the first few weeks of college in 2011, the college eventually had to issue a warning to students to access that studio by the longer route through New Row South and all the way around by Sandford Avenue - people were getting regularly mugged for their instruments when walking past the estate if taking the much quicker route through Donore Avenue. In the house I mentioned, one night comes to mind in which we were heading to a gig, a bass player parked his car outside the house for literally two minutes so he could knock on the door for us all to come outside and get in the car, he stepped into the gaff to help carry instruments out and once we got back outside, the car's windows had been smashed and his guitar was gone.

It's currently in the process of being demolished, but... Damn.

People who've worked with the Gardaí have told me that it was the layout of the place which made it so particularly dangerous as opposed to others - there was only one entrance route in and out of it, between two blocks, and then the rest of the state was laid out in a repeating "T" shape, with only one ingress and egress route straight down the middle. So the Gardaí were apparently terrified of driving fully into it as their cars would get surrounded and they'd have no escape route except back the way they came. As a result, they generally manned an almost 24/7 checkpoint just outside it for the entire time I was in college in the area, but it didn't stop people hopping over the wall onto Eugene Street, with the gap in the wall to hop over unfortunately coinciding directly with my friends' gaff. Total nightmare.

The Nal

Munster46 wrote: »

Southill In Limerick is some kip

By a mile the biggest kip in the country. O'Malley Park in particular. Like Ballymun in the mid 90s.

Look at the cut of this.

rossie1977

The Nal wrote: »

By a mile the biggest kip in the country. O'Malley Park in particular. Like Ballymun in the mid 90s.

Look at the cut of this.

St mels in athlone was just like that and there would be riots etc https://www.irishtimes.com/news/14-people-remanded-after-riot-in-athlone-1.55573

Limerick Council need to completely raze that to the ground

johnnyryan89

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Moyross is often mentioned but it's too big to really completely write off, st Mary's Park ( Limerick again) looks awful run down but it appears to have quietened down a lot?

O malley Park in Southhill Limerick is a right dump

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Actually o malley Park might be ballinacurra weston?

Born and bred in St Mary's Park. Place has really went downhill lookwise in the last decade but more so down to the council and this regeneration shîte. As for the place quietening down, I think it's more that the feud itself ain't in the news that things seem quiet but the area is worse now than when the feud was in full swing imo. Moyross has quietened down as the older lads are either locked up or moved away but if this younger generation there get the feud started again it's gonna be a lot worse as they've no fear whatsoever.

No O'Malley Park is in Southill

Ray Palmer

partyguinness wrote: »

Having grown up in the countryside, my parents large self build detached house is in the middle of protected woodland. We cannot see other houses, own water supply, cannot see or hear other traffic and on a private road. But yet only 15 minutes walk to shop and pubs and main road.

Housing estates are an alien concept to me and generally fill me with horror and confusion that large swathes of the population live if such third world conditions.

And to think city folk like to call us culchies. It is a compliment. You live on a council estate ffs....or some wankly named Celtic Tiger housing estate negative equity ****show.

Oh yeah....(takes giant smug nasal inhalation)..:D

So you live such an isolated existence you don't know what a 3rd world standard is. Have you ever travelled outside of the country and seen how people live elsewhere?

When we call you culchies it is precisely because when we talk to you guys you are clueless if the world outside your subsidised bubble.

You are confused by housing estates! You think they are either all council estates or new builds. The weird thing is there are estates of all types all around the country and hou seem to be unaware of them.

Fine that your parents provided you with that but what have you managed to provide for yourself? You sound no different to a rich kid talking about what they were given as if they did something to get it.

I am quite happy living in an area with multiple options of everything close by. Kids have multiple schools to choose from and options for their future close by

TheShow

sugarman wrote: »

Jobstown hands down, they demolished a Lidl FFS.

That was Fortunestown.

Munster46 wrote: »

Southill In Limerick is some kip

O'Malley Park is about 3/4 demolished by now. Quiet up there now.

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Actually o malley Park might be ballinacurra weston?

It's the top part of Southill. Most of it is demolished now. A lot of green space for whatever horses are about.

Weston is up the road from the train station. Same with Prospect.

The Nal

TheShow wrote: »

That was Fortunestown.

Half of the lads were from Jobstown. One lad who lived in Santry which was a long walk in the snow.

They knocked over the Centra in Jobstown that night too.

An Post stopped delivering to Mac Uilliam estate in Jobstown this year. I used to live beside it. Its a total kip.

The Nal wrote: »

Half of the lads were from Jobstown. One lad who lived in Santry which was a long walk in the snow.

They knocked over the Centra in Jobstown that night too.

An Post stopped delivering to Mac Uilliam estate in Jobstown this year. I used to live beside it. Its a total kip.

Which unfortunately meant you also lived in a kip is you lived beside it

Swiftbrook, Russell Square, Ard Mor and Brookfield? are no Foxrock

Samsgirl wrote: »

Ballybeg in Waterford can be a scary place at times. Just the minority ruining it for a lot of decent people.

I met a girl from Ballybeg in Club LA. At the end of the night I walked her home. We seen a horse going into somebodies house.

As soon as we reach the front door, her mother called her from upstairs. I was trying to sneak in but the girl said that her father was a martial arts instructor.

Walked down to the main road and grabbed a cab to View Mount.

partyguinness

Ray Palmer wrote: »

So you live such an isolated existence you don't know what a 3rd world standard is. Have you ever travelled outside of the country and seen how people live elsewhere?

When we call you culchies it is precisely because when we talk to you guys you are clueless if the world outside your subsidised bubble.

You are confused by housing estates! You think they are either all council estates or new builds. The weird thing is there are estates of all types all around the country and hou seem to be unaware of them.

Fine that your parents provided you with that but what have you managed to provide for yourself? You sound no different to a rich kid talking about what they were given as if they did something to get it.

I am quite happy living in an area with multiple options of everything close by. Kids have multiple schools to choose from and options for their future close by

Awhhh...did we touch a nerve? Poor diddums.

I have lived and worked in three different countries in two different continents including third level in two different countries. I have traveled to 25-30 different countries across 6 continents. Lived in big cities, small towns etc. I value my healthy lungs and the non existent crime and my schooling was A1.

In fact I am writing this from outside Ireland. How about that for a bubble...:D

The Nal wrote: »

By a mile the biggest kip in the country. O'Malley Park in particular. Like Ballymun in the mid 90s.

Look at the cut of this.

Those buildings are more than likely knocked down.

The Nal

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Which unfortunately meant you also lived in a kip is you lived beside it

Yup!

YFlyer wrote: »

Those buildings are more than likely knocked down.

Only some of them. The regeneration project was shelved.

The problem is you end up with "streets" like this.

CrankyHaus

partyguinness wrote: »

Awhhh...did we touch a nerve? Poor diddums.

I have lived and worked in three different countries in two different continents including third level in two different countries. I have traveled to 25-30 different countries across 6 continents. Lived in big cities, small towns etc. I value my healthy lungs and the non existent crime and my schooling was A1.

In fact I am writing this from outside Ireland. How about that for a bubble...:D

Honestly if the normal living conditions of most people of all classes from your own country fill you with "horror and confusion" then I feel sorry for you.
It's a level of isolation from normal people more reminiscint of a colonial landlord, aghast at the natives around him, than any self-respecting Irish person should suffer from.

Nobody cares about your globe trotting escapades or your "A1 Education" either, assuming they ever existed outside of your own imagination.

touts

The Nal wrote: »

By a mile the biggest kip in the country. O'Malley Park in particular. Like Ballymun in the mid 90s.

Look at the cut of this.

O'Malley park was an awful hole of a place. Had to go in there once. We picked up a tail as soon as we entered the place. Was told the dealers who controlled the area tailed every strange car that went in there to see what they were up to and who they were talking to. Most depressing place I've ever seen.

I'm not a left winger by any means but I'll call it that these people were abandoned by the state and desperately needed help getting out of the situation they were trapped in. Generations of children grew up there knowing nothing but poverty and decay. That's why the utter waste that is the Irish Welfare system is such a scandal. People who need a kick up the arse get resources that are desperately needed by genuine cases like those trapped in O'Malley park.

The Nal wrote: »

Yup!

Only some of them. The regeneration project was shelved.

The problem is you end up with "streets" like this.

The houses abandoned and burned down are abolished.

SteM wrote: »

Jobstown isn't an estate though, it's the size of a small town in itself.

Jobstown ends with the boundary at Jobstown Road. The Lidl in question is not in Jobstown.

Beyond that there are several other estates, including Mountain View, Brookview, which is part of a group of estates known as Brookfield i.e. Brookview, Rossfield and Glenshane. If anything, the Lidl is closer to Brookfield, then Jobstown.

Swiftbrook is a private development, and Russell Court was built as a mix of affordable housing with some social housing mixed in.

None of which is part of JOBSTOWN.

But hey, like I said, don't let that get in the way of the bias against Jobstown.