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M7 - Naas/Newbridge Bypass Upgrade [Junction 9a now open]

JupiterKid

Following on from the suggestion of a poster, this thread has been set up to discuss the need for widening the M7.

The section of the M7 IMO in immediate need (really a backlog need) for widening is the section from the Maudlins Interchange at Naas to the M9 interchange - basically the original 1983 Naas Bypass and half of the 1993 Newbridge Bypass. Is this likely to proceed in the near future?

Would the central median be wide enough for widening to D3M here? I'm pretty sure it is wide enough on the Newbridge bypass section but I'm not so sure in the case of the Naas Bypass.

Also, what bridges will need to be demolished and rebuilt? Or would it be more practical to drop the hard shoulder through the existing bridges?

What about the proposal a few years back to build a new junction at on the Naas Bypass at Osberstown? Will it still go ahead?

In the longer term, does anyone see a need to widen the M7 to the N7/M8 junction?

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Kevtherev1

The M7 Upgrade website has just posted the following traffic update.

This coming Sunday 8th Sept, the M9 southbound carriageway between Junction 11 (M7 split) and Junction 2 (Kilcullen) will be closed from 21.30 hrs through to 06.30hrs on Monday 9th Sep.Traffic will be diverted along the M7 westbound from Junction 11 to exit at Junction 12 (Newbridge) and then directed onto the R413 towards Kilcullen past the Curragh turning left at Kilcullen onto the R448 to rejoin the M9 at Junction 2.

This closure and diversion is necessary to carry out essential surfacing works as part of the M7 Upgrade. Motorists may experience some delays due to this closure and diversion and should make allowances when planning their journey.The Gardai will be in attendance during the closure to assist in maintaining traffic flows at certain locations.

BuzzFish

jmkennedyie wrote: »

Some observations...

Mainline
- Junction 9A bridge has barriers and has been surfaced..

To be 100% accurate the ramps are surfaced ready to go, lighting being installed however the link from 9a to the millennium park ring road is just completing out it's foundation layers and should see tarmac in the coming week or so. All curbing is in place now with the curbs at the millennium park roundabout installed just yesterday.

I'd say 9a could still be on for a September opening ðŸ˜€ with a push.

Jim Gazebo

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

They're resurfacing it in stages between J14 and J16 for some reason but they're pretty slow to update the signage as they complete each section which is why people are largely ignoring the lower limit as it's clearly no longer relevant?

There is a stripped back uneven section for a few hundred metres at J15 at the moment though so this does warrant a lower limit alright

That's what I was asking. Couldn't understand why it was there but as an n driver being caught doing 120 in a 60 would pretty **** you up. Frustrating

_Kaiser_

Jim Gazebo wrote: »

What is with the 60km section by J14? Passed it a few times now and no one seems to do 60, stay at 100/120/140 and it all seems very dangerous when you actually do 60.

They're resurfacing it in stages between J14 and J16 for some reason but they're pretty slow to update the signage as they complete each section which is why people are largely ignoring the lower limit as it's clearly no longer relevant?

There is a stripped back uneven section for a few hundred metres at J15 at the moment though so this does warrant a lower limit alright

Darc19

Pablod wrote: »

Yeah big improvement on commute even with schools back apart from the crash on N7 at Kill this morning which backed down to Jn9 :mad: thankfully avoided it in time.

Not too keen on the new Jn10 have to say... have noticed few times at Jn10 (Eastbound) exit tailing back almost onto M7 due to traffic not being able to get onto the roundabout.

Also on Jn10 have seen plenty of near misses due to cars pulling across 2 or 3 lanes at last minute to exist at the new Jn10, as they wouldn't sit behind cars keeping to the 80K in lane 1.

I wouldn't be worried about jct 10.

Once jct 9a opens all the millennium park and some general Naas traffic will use that which will see a lot less traffic on jct 10.

Also the gantry signs need to be installed asap so that motorists know the junction is a lot closer than before.

Pablod

Yeah big improvement on commute even with schools back apart from the crash on N7 at Kill this morning which backed down to Jn9 :mad: thankfully avoided it in time.

Not too keen on the new Jn10 have to say... have noticed few times at Jn10 (Eastbound) exit tailing back almost onto M7 due to traffic not being able to get onto the roundabout.

Also on Jn10 have seen plenty of near misses due to cars pulling across 2 or 3 lanes at last minute to exist at the new Jn10, as they wouldn't sit behind cars keeping to the 80K in lane 1.

WhatsGoingOn2

The road is definitely holding up Westbound in the evenings. No delays so far even with schools back which is great.
Anyone know when the roundabout at Junction 10 is due to finish?
It is a bit of a pain to have to go back down to the Bundle of Sticks to go back into Newbridge. (although in the bigger scheme of things, commute is still hugely improved)

Stark

JohnC. wrote: »

Does it work like this?

Distance to town

(Belfast isn't even on the M1, right?)

Is that an actual sign? Looks like a mockup that was proposed a few years ago to give Irish equal prominence to English on the signs but I don't remember them ever being accepted.

Jim Gazebo

What is with the 60km section by J14? Passed it a few times now and no one seems to do 60, stay at 100/120/140 and it all seems very dangerous when you actually do 60.

jmkennedyie

Some observations...

Mainline
- Junction 10 Westbound onramp and junction roundabouts/relevelling in progress. OSM up to date, just being rerendered at different zoom levels at the moment https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/53.20785/-6.71149.
- Junction 9A bridge has barriers and has been surfaced...

Sallins Bypass
- New Osberstown Road overbridge beams installed. This bridge needs to opened so bypass can be carved through the existing temp road and under railway.
- Canal Bridge piers advanced.

joe_99

Belfast is on the E01 route

pegasus1

Mrs Dempsey wrote: »

To annoy the easily annoyed

Lol I’m not annoyed, it just took my eye off the road when I spotted it..

Mrs Dempsey

pegasus1 wrote: »

..... why have a distance sign for a town when the exit is less than a km away and to a village beyond it....

To annoy the easily annoyed

pegasus1

Ok maybe so, but why have a distance sign for a town when the exit is less than a km away and to a village beyond it..for those here traveling the M7, it’s located before Naas north heading north and have a look..

JohnC.

pegasus1 wrote: »

Why would you have a local distance sign on a motorway..? It would seem to be a distance to exit sign

Does it work like this?

Distance to town

(Belfast isn't even on the M1, right?)

Distance to exit

If your sign had more than one distance on it, I assume it was the first type. I doubt they do distance to exit signs with more than one on it.

[Deleted User]

pegasus1 wrote: »

Why would you have a local distance sign on a motorway..? It would seem to be a distance to exit sign

...Because people are heading to major towns and cities, not the exits?

The signposts giving distance to Limerick on the M7 are giving it to the city centre, not the junction at Annacotty. Sign posts across Europe and the USA work this way too, because it's rational and logical.

pegasus1

Deleted User wrote: »

The sign is distance to the town, not distance to the exit.

Why would you have a local distance sign on a motorway..? It would seem to be a distance to exit sign

riddlinrussell

trellheim wrote: »

What is the revised speed limit now or is it 120 all the way through the works

Currently still at 80km/h, expect that to run through until all finishing works and J9a works are complete.

trellheim

What is the revised speed limit now or is it 120 all the way through the works

riddlinrussell

BuzzFish wrote: »

It would make no sense to have 2 ramps 300m apart.

And it would mean downgrading the entire Naas bypass from motorway to maybe an 80kph permanent dual carriage way due to safety concerns from the redundant junction so close to another one

BuzzFish

beertons wrote: »

That's a pity.

It would make no sense to have 2 ramps 300m apart.

beertons

BuzzFish wrote: »

No, its been replaced by the new one.

That's a pity.

BuzzFish

beertons wrote: »

Is that old slip reopening?

No, its been replaced by the new one.

beertons

Is that old slip reopening?

BuzzFish

On ramp Eastbound at the new J10 opened this morning. Old ramp closed.

road_high

hellondearth92 wrote: »

The M7 can be widened all the way to J18 Portlaoise. Why not continue the three lanes down to here?

Ah it’s never too bad is it? Very free flowing. Especially after Kildare.

pad199207

The Naas South Interchange to open tomorrow morning

https://www.leinsterleader.ie/news/home/474385/at-long-last-naas-south-junction-to-open-on-the-kildare-s-m7-motorway.html

BelfastVanMan

hellondearth92 wrote: »

The M7 can be widened all the way to J18 Portlaoise. Why not continue the three lanes down to here?

Cost and need.

[Deleted User]

mrsoundie wrote: »

It is the distance from Post Office to Post Office

I'll need a source for 'modern signage is using distance from post office to post office', otherwise I'm calling nonsense on the claim.

mrsoundie

Deleted User wrote: »

The sign is distance to the town, not distance to the exit.

It is the distance from Post Office to Post Office, back in the days it was stagecoaches or Bianconi Coaches were the only method of transport and they delivered the mail as well.

On a side note, travelled the M7/N7 yesterday and even at the 80 Kph speed limit, flew along the road.