Thelonious Monk wrote: » How do you know its the same people that ask lidl things on Facebook and call themselves environmentalists that left tents in EP??!
batgoat wrote: » I've checked, there's about half a dozen articles or so about electric picnic and rubbish from the last 5 hours. Plus there was this call from before it started.http://www.midlands103.com/news-centre/calls-for-tent-deposit-at-electric-picnic-to-reduce-waste/
Thelonious Monk wrote: » So youre somehow blaming people who care about the environment for leaving tents in electric picnic? And claiming these are the same people who ask lidl to cut down on waste packaging? I fail to see the link??
99problems1 wrote: » It's the irony of people so vocal about saving on veg packaging (even though it's a drop in the ocean) while these same people aren't saying a peep about the tent issue.
blinding wrote: » Why was this pointless journey with Greta and her handlers made across the Atlantic . Why did they not all just stay at home ? Stay at homes folks . The most effective thing you can do .
Financial and legal experts agreed on the urgency of climate change and declared their desire to be part of its solution, during two dialogues convened by the UN Environment Programme (UNEP). The first event, held in partnership with Kings College London at their campus during the beginning of 2019, was a round table composed of: financial and legal professionals from the private sector and specialist non-governmental organizations, public finance institutions’ representatives (notably from the Bank of England and the Central Bank of France) and academia. The findings of this discussion resulted in the UNEP report Legal Readiness for Climate Finance: Private Sector Opportunities. This report was launched in the aforementioned second dialogue, hosted by Standard Chartered Bank Kenya in Nairobi on 7 July. Here, the findings were shared and deliberated by stakeholders similar to the London event, such as the Nairobi Stock Exchange, advocates and Kenya Climate Innovation Centre.source
KyussB wrote: » Meanwhile, actual/real solutions to the waste problem - like massive R&D for plastic reclamation/recycling, and mass employment/capital put into facilities for such (as well as facilities for more thoroughly recycling electronics and rare earths into renewable power sources) - would probably be deemed Communism, and tantamount to 'seizing the means of production', Stalinist gulags, and a complete conversion of the whole economy into a centrally planned authoritarian state.
Republican staffers on the House Energy and Commerce Committee have been sifting through tens of thousands of pages of internal emails, trying to find evidence Solyndra got special treatment from the White House despite a number of warning signs.Already, they’ve found messages from White House officials pushing to get the Energy Department and Office of Management and Budget to clear some early hurdles in the loan guarantee so that Obama or Vice President Joe Biden could participate in a big groundbreaking ceremony. The emails also show the company was privately confiding to the Energy Department that it had some cash problems even as it made upbeat assessments elsewhere. “This really smells pretty bad,” House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-Mich.) said Thursday. “Seeing the documents, they figured that this company was going to be out of cash by September 2011 and it wasn’t ready for prime time. … This is just bad.”source
President Barack Obama has made one final contribution to the fight against global warming on his way out the White House door. On Tuesday, Obama transferred $500 million to the UN’s Green Climate Fund, a key program set up to finance climate change adaptation and renewable energy projects in developing countries. That’s on top of another $500 million the Obama administration had already given to the fund.source
99problems1 wrote: » I wonder what cars Gretas parents drive or house they live in or holidays they go on?
Pa ElGrande wrote: » Why do you wonder? They are parents of a girl who believes in Thermageddon by 2030, they have much greater concerns on their hands and they would likely welcome a holiday. What type of holidays do you think the financiers cashing in on Greta take? As it happens one of the yacht owners business is helicoptering the super rich from their super-yachts to Monaco. Now that is hypocrisy.
KyussB wrote: » Meanwhile, actual/real solutions to the waste problem - like massive R&D for plastic reclamation/recycling, and mass employment/capital put into facilities for such (as well as facilities for more thoroughly recycling electronics and rare earths into renewable power sources) - would probably be deemed Communism, and tantamount to 'seizing the means of production', Stalinist gulags, and a complete conversion of the whole economy into a centrally planned authoritarian state.More important than discussions of actual solutions though, is the pointing out far-fetched examples of hypocrisy, involving (among other things) a teenage kid flinging their shit into the sea...
KyussB wrote: » Greta is all about solutions to climate change. There hasn't been a single idea involving a centrally planned authoritarian state, nor forced collectivized labour, in the whole thread - just unfounded screechings of Communism.
Misogyny, meet hypocrisy: Climate deniers go after AOC, Greta Thunberg with sexist attacks Climate skeptics don't have science, morality or simple decency on their side — so they're leaning into sexismhttps://www.salon.com/2019/08/30/misogyny-meet-hypocrisy-climate-deniers-go-after-aoc-greta-thunberg-with-sexist-attacks/
gozunda wrote: » Is she? or is she simply a panicked teenager with aspergers (who inexplicably believes the world is going to end in 2030) who is being used by others? Not to nitpick however oh yes there has. There are a whole raft of posters on here and in the other thread who have cleary said otherwise about your ideas involving a centrally planned authoritarian state and forced collectivized labour which have been completely busted already. That you may believe otherwise is neither here nor there.
KyussB wrote: » People claiming an idea is Communist, or involves a centrally planned authoritarian state, or involves forced collectivized labour - that requires a higher burden of proof than merely claiming the idea is that - posters must show it is that. I'm fully aware that there's going to be an attempt from multiple posters, at dinging my posts with reports btw, to try to shut me down. Well: I'm on topic, as Greta is precisely about pushing for solutions to climate change - which I've posted - and which if anything would be causing the derailing, would be trying to drag discussion into Communist comparisons with zero argument.
KyussB wrote: » People claiming an idea is Communist, or involves a centrally planned authoritarian state, or involves forced collectivized labour - that requires a higher burden of proof than merely claiming the idea is that - posters must show it is that.I'm fully aware that there's going to be an attempt from multiple posters, at dinging my posts with reports btw, to try to shut me down. Well: I'm on topic, as Greta is precisely about pushing for solutions to climate change - which I've posted - and which if anything would be causing the derailing, would be trying to drag discussion into Communist comparisons with zero argument.
Stevieluvsye wrote: » What solutions are these?
99problems1 wrote: » What solutions? Her only role is to be a kid who is admired for caring about something normally cared about by people much older than her. Then she gets a pat on the head "good girl Greta, aren't you brilliant for caring about such a thing!"
99problems1 wrote: » I'll start taking this whole thing seriously once people, companies, countries actually make decisions that are going to solve it, like drastically reducing population through restrictions on births. The whole "I'm saving the planet because I buy my bananas wrapped in paper, not plastic" is an ego thing designed to make people feel better about themselves.
Matt Barrett wrote: » Interesting article.You have to wonder where the outrage comes from. I don't believe it's all about taxes...
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Stevieluvsye wrote: » What solutions has Greta come up with?
